Question From A Coach

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

After a loose ball situation, where his player stepped out of bounds as he touched the ball cradled by the opponent who was lying down in bounds,

"How can it be out of bounds if he didn't have possession?"

There was no answer for this.

Silence was your best choice.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Silence was your best choice.

I'm not sure. How else does the coach learn anything if you don't say anything?

I like the realm in which Rob and Bad were: "If you're out of bounds, you can't touch the ball, period." (Throw-ins notwithstanding.)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm not sure. How else does the coach learn anything if you don't say anything?

I like the realm in which Rob and Bad were: "If you're out of bounds, you can't touch the ball, period." (Throw-ins notwithstanding.)

I'm teaching a coach that his player is not allowed to touch the ball while standing OOB.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm not sure. How else does the coach learn anything if you don't say anything?

I like the realm in which Rob and Bad were: "If you're out of bounds, you can't touch the ball, period." (Throw-ins notwithstanding.)

The thing is, I don't think there's any coach anywhere who doesn't know this, so I really don't think it was a legitimate question. Besides, the coach had already demonstrated he wasn't interested in answers.

To his credit, he approached us after the game to ask a question about the pivot foot and accepted the answer my partner gave him.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The thing is, I don't think there's any coach anywhere who doesn't know this, so I really don't think it was a legitimate question. Besides, the coach had already demonstrated he wasn't interested in answers.

To his credit, he approached us after the game to ask a question about the pivot foot and accepted the answer my partner gave him.

Camps preach that coaches wnat to have a dialogue with us during the game and want to be heard and not blow them off...What I have found is that I have no problem explaining a call to them when they rasie a question.."Why was that a charge?" or "why not intentional foul?"...The problem is they want to debate your answer and extend the conversation...

Thoughts on this please...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Camps preach that coaches wnat to have a dialogue with us during the game and want to be heard and not blow them off...What I have found is that I have no problem explaining a call to them when they rasie a question.."Why was that a charge?" or "why not intentional foul?"...The problem is they want to debate your answer and extend the conversation...

Thoughts on this please...

Not all camps teach the same things and when it comes to something like this not all clinicians in the same camp teach the same things. There are times when questions are very appropriate and other times when they are silly or over the top. Of course a single question should get an answer, but sometimes those questions are to have a debate like you said. What you have to learn is when those times are that way and when they are not that way. Experience usually teaches you this and even with experience not all actions will work every time.

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

What I have found is that I have no problem explaining a call to them when they rasie a question.."Why was that a charge?" or "why not intentional foul?"...The problem is they want to debate your answer and extend the conversation...

Thoughts on this please...

"I'm sorry coach, did I lead you to believe that my answer was debatable?"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tref

"I'm sorry coach, did I lead you to believe that my answer was debatable?"

And if you say that to some coaches they will think you are being sensitive or being defensive. You cannot win with these guys not matter what you say.

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if you say that to some coaches they will think you are being sensitive or being defensive. You cannot win with these guys not matter what you say.

Peace

True story JRut, good thing my customer is the game & not "some" coaches.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Camps preach that coaches wnat to have a dialogue with us during the game and want to be heard and not blow them off...What I have found is that I have no problem explaining a call to them when they rasie a question.."Why was that a charge?" or "why not intentional foul?"...The problem is they want to debate your answer and extend the conversation...

Thoughts on this please...

"You asked for an explanation and I gave you one. The play is over."

[rockyroad]

The mantra I have always been taught and taught to others is "A REASONABLE question gets a reasonable response"...a question like the one in the OP is most certainly not reasonable - that coach was trying to pick a fight or just plain being an a$$-hat. They don't need a response, and in most cases any response will just cause more problems.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The mantra I have always been taught and taught to others is "A REASONABLE question gets a reasonable response"...a question like the one in the OP is most certainly not reasonable - that coach was trying to pick a fight or just plain being an a$$-hat. They don't need a response, and in most cases any response will just cause more problems.

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[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The mantra I have always been taught and taught to others is "A REASONABLE question gets a reasonable response"...a question like the one in the OP is most certainly not reasonable - that coach was trying to pick a fight or just plain being an a$$-hat. They don't need a response, and in most cases any response will just cause more problems.

Without seeing the play in person who are we to say it's not a reasonable question? What's the harm in saying, "Coach, your kid was out of bounds when he touched it." If he does something after that to be a PitA then deal with it accordingly but just because a question has an obvious answer doesn't mean it isn't reasonable.