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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 12:53pm
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Politics around here seems synonymous with people complaining about why they cannot get ahead. Politics is an excuse, either you have what it takes or you don't.

Sorry you are unhappy with your situation, but you are an independent contractor. Which means you can pick and choose where you want to work, choose the games that suits your schedule. The choice is yours.
Not always.

In the case of the Houston UIL chapter they completely manipulated the schedule of those that they did not like. There was a group of us that sued the chapter because of a fraudulent "vote" that was pushed through by the current board to change from TASO to UIL. They did not follow Texas Law nor Robert's Rules of Order ... they simply did what they wanted to do because it was the president's agenda.

All of us that sued received schedules that were completely crap games -- places I hadn't worked in years!! It was clear the the president had decided to manipulate the assigning process to get some revenge. He also tried to tell officials assigning tournaments that they couldn't use certain people, which caused a huge uproar.

Keep in mind that those of us that sued were almost all college officials, some working at the Division I level, including myself. So, there was no issue based on "having what it takes" ... it was politics pure and simple.

It's interesting to me that the same guy is STILL president of the chapter, when his term and term limits have LONG expired. I can't understand why several hundred officials just stand there and let him get away with it.
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 12:55pm
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It's interesting to me that the same guy is STILL president of the chapter, when his term and term limits have LONG expired. I can't understand why several hundred officials just stand there and let him get away with it.
Nevermind how long it took for bylaws, amongst other things, to be put into place once the organization switched over. And you know why on the second part. As long as people were still getting games, why rock the boat, right?
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 12:58pm
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Nevermind how long it took for bylaws, amongst other things, to be put into place once the organization switched over.
Exactly.

No one voted to rewrite the constitution or form a new organization, but the president took it upon himself to come up with an entirely new document, putting things in that were never voted on, nor discussed with the members. He simply has no respect for how organizations are run and thinks it's his own little playground.

There is also a question now of where the TASO money went that was in the bank at the time ... somewhere around $50,000 just "disappeared" ... and no one has provided any sort of financial documents for years.

There are some people looking into this now (legally) and it will all come out eventually ... I'm really going to enjoy telling a few people "I told you so!!"
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Old Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:26pm
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Not always.

In the case of the Houston UIL chapter they completely manipulated the schedule of those that they did not like. There was a group of us that sued the chapter because of a fraudulent "vote" that was pushed through by the current board to change from TASO to UIL. They did not follow Texas Law nor Robert's Rules of Order ... they simply did what they wanted to do because it was the president's agenda.

All of us that sued received schedules that were completely crap games -- places I hadn't worked in years!! It was clear the the president had decided to manipulate the assigning process to get some revenge. He also tried to tell officials assigning tournaments that they couldn't use certain people, which caused a huge uproar.

Keep in mind that those of us that sued were almost all college officials, some working at the Division I level, including myself. So, there was no issue based on "having what it takes" ... it was politics pure and simple.

It's interesting to me that the same guy is STILL president of the chapter, when his term and term limits have LONG expired. I can't understand why several hundred officials just stand there and let him get away with it.
you seem to think that you are entitled to games just because you have reached a certain level.

face it, when regimes change, so does the balance of power, whether it is officiating, business, or politics.

you think that you could remain neutral toward someone you do not care for? you would not take care of the people who supported you over the ones that didn't? btw you sued because you didn't get your way or felt you were not treated fairly, how did the lawsuit turn out? sounds like your group lost which indicates things were satisfactory in the eyes of the law

must be a very nice view from your tower
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:05pm
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you seem to think that you are entitled to games just because you have reached a certain level.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. I don't assume I'm entitled to anything. However, I did work to attain certain achievements.

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face it, when regimes change, so does the balance of power, whether it is officiating, business, or politics.
I don't liken a non-profit organization to a "regime" and disagree that it should be run like one.

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btw you sued because you didn't get your way or felt you were not treated fairly, how did the lawsuit turn out? sounds like your group lost which indicates things were satisfactory in the eyes of the law
No, we sued because the board of directors of the organization were not following the own organizations constitution, procedures and policies. If they had, there would have never been a lawsuit.

Also, your second statement is laughable. You must have never been involved in a lawsuit or the law at all to believe that a court's ruling, or a lawsuit not winning equals everything was "satisfactory in the eyes of the law".

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must be a very nice view from your tower
Not sure what this is supposed to mean.
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Old Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:11pm
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you seem to think that you are entitled to games just because you have reached a certain level.
Also, I do think that members or an organization should be treated fairly based on what the organizations leaders have said they would do. There was a system in place to assign games. That system was manipulated so as to "punish" those that the board of directors did not like. That's not being fair -- it's being vindictive.

I still worked plenty of games. I was in a position where I was working a good lower-level college schedule as well as for two different D1 supervisors at the time. That was one of the reasons that I was able to put my name on a lawsuit. It was not a surprise that the leadership manipulated schedules -- that's why the majority of the organization just went along with it ... most are too scared to stick their neck out and put their name on the line, knowing that there will be payback.

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you think that you could remain neutral toward someone you do not care for?
As far as my dislike for that person, possibly not. However, I hold the policies of an organization in higher regard than my own personal viewpoints.

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you would not take care of the people who supported you over the ones that didn't?
It was not the president's place to "take care" of anyone as it relates to scheduling games in an organization with well over 500 members. The president is not in charge of scheduling. However, he used his influence and intimidation with members to get his way ... like a petulant child, rather than dealing with things like a rational adult.
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