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[tref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Or perhaps you're not interested in anyone else's opinion.

I listened to his opinion, I heard it & I as well as others on this thread didnt agree that this situation required a group talk. I hope that is okay with you...

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Perhaps your phone is ringing off the hook because no one else will work these games.

Perhaps, but it rings as much from Nov-March as it does now, so...

Originally Posted by Smitty

And you know this because you were there?

I read the OP over again and the ball bounced after "skimming" by one of his teammate's head. I don't see how this can be having the ball thrown at you "like a laser" when it bounces before it gets to you. Based on tref's history with other situations that were actually worse, I just wonder more whether he is carrying his cockiness that he displays here into his games a bit too much. Maybe not - I don't know, but it sure seems odd that so many players are willing to vent their frustration so blatantly directly at him.

No he wasnt wasnt there, but he has good reading comprehension skills.
The only thing that slowed down the ball & made it change directions was the mohawk of his teammate.

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

...or as somebody may have alluded to...it may be the types of players in the types of games he is working.

Who knows... this time of year I'm usually paired up with wreck refs & I notice that they want to be liked more than respected. They lean toward the safe call while I hand out Ts like they're skittles.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by tref

No he wasnt wasnt there, but he has good reading comprehension skills.
The only thing that slowed down the ball & made it change directions was the mohawk of his teammate.

So because he agrees with you, he has better reading comprehension skills than I do. Classic. This is the level of debate I'm dealing with. If you're going to get your feelings hurt when someone dares to speak against your arrogant style of handing out T's like they're Skittles, then there's really no point in posting the nonsense in the first place. If all you want is for people to agree with you, this is not the place for that.

[tref]

Smitty, why you wanna be like that? You asked if he was there... I said no, he obviously read the post as it was written. Many times we put our own spin on the facts, he just used the facts given & came to the correct conclusion. That's it, no more, no less. Sorry if YOUR feelings got hurt. You read well too... when you want to

Agree or disagree with me, it matters not. I dont care what some guys on a message board that I have never met & havent seen me work, think of me.

The handing out Ts like skittles comment was made by a commentator on a game I worked.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by tref

The handing out Ts like skittles comment was made by a commentator on a game I worked.

Taste the rainbow?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

Agree or disagree with me, it matters not. I dont care what some guys on a message board that I have never met & havent seen me work, think of me.

Then why keep posting these situations?

Seriously. If you really don't care what any of us on this board think, why keep coming here?

[tref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Then why keep posting these situations?

Seriously. If you really don't care what any of us on this board think, why keep coming here?

See, there it is. Why must you guys spin my words? Add & subtract from my statements
What "I" said was:

Originally Posted by tref

I dont care what some guys on a message board that I have never met & havent seen me work, think of me.

I definitely care what my peers think about my situations!! I only care what God, my wife & child think of ME personally. Comprende?

To answer your question, I keep coming here because I utilize any & every outlet to gain more knowledge, wisdom & understanding of our craft.

[gslefeb]

I also do not understand how someone can throw a "laser" from the 28' mark, "skim" off a head and not reach you in flight. Was it a laser? Did it do more than Skim?

Assuming I'm picturing this wrong, giving your description that there was no doubt what happened, I have no problem with you confronting the player.

If it was not a "laser" meaning there could be doubt if his actions were meant to show you up or injure you; then I think part of your conversation was antagonistic. "You need to be more careful..". You got your point across with the first question, I do not like the "you need" part.

If the rec league has a bunch of "idiots", then I would not give it much thought. However, if you are the "only" official that this happens to, I would give it a 10min thought asking yourself why?

[tref]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

I also do not understand how someone can throw a "laser" from the 28' mark, "skim" off a head and not reach you in flight. Was it a laser? Did it do more than Skim?

Assuming I'm picturing this wrong, giving your description that there was no doubt what happened, I have no problem with you confronting the player.

If it was not a "laser" meaning there could be doubt if his actions were meant to show you up or injure you; then I think part of your conversation was antagonistic. "You need to be more careful..". You got your point across with the first question, I do not like the "you need" part.

If the rec league has a bunch of "idiots", then I would not give it much thought. However, if you are the "only" official that this happens to, I would give it a 10min thought asking yourself why?

He was at the 28' line, but also way OOB on the sideline, the teammate that got skimmed was on the court in between the arc & FT line extended. That is when the ball slowed down & changed direction, which explains the bounce before it got to me. So yes, it was a laser.

Actually out of my 10 years of experience, this is only the 2nd time a ball has been thrown at me. It just so happens that they both occured as of late. One was in a womens game & the other in a mens game, at two different locations.

Never been assaulted in a sanctioned game at any level.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

I definitely care what my peers think about my situations!! I only care what God, my wife & child think of ME personally. Comprende?

.

And yet when you post situations like these - ones that are not rules based - the discussion will inevitably turn to a "what could you have done differently" or "what did you do to make it worse" type of thing. And then you throw out comments like the ones you have made in this thread...seems kind of silly to ask for validation and then tell those who don't validate you that you don't care what they think of you.

Comprende vous??

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And yet when you post situations like these - ones that are not rules based - the discussion will inevitably turn to a "what could you have done differently" or "what did you do to make it worse" type of thing. And then you throw out comments like the ones you have made in this thread...seems kind of silly to ask for validation and then tell those who don't validate you that you don't care what they think of you.

Comprende vous??

Like.

[tref]

I used to love her because I could get different perspectives from officials all over the world. Seeing how I only like the Forum now, your wish is my command. I'll read more, post less (way less) & share my situations with friends.

[stir22]

Originally Posted by tref

I used to love her because I could get different perspectives from officials all over the world. Seeing how I only like the Forum now, your wish is my command. I'll read more, post less (way less) & share my situations with friends.

pardon my ignorance, and i'm late to the thread, but is it a league where one technical is an automatic ejection? reading the thread i haven't been able to figure out whether he was ejected because of the number of technicals or the unsporting act.

/thank you

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tref

Agree or disagree with me, it matters not. I dont care what some guys on a message board that I have never met & havent seen me work, think of me.

Great. Since you don't care, and therefore shouldn't be offended, here's what I think.

Every time you post one these situations, others point out how you might could have have something different. It's how many others of us here LEARN. You have chosen not to, seeming to only want to brag about how you whacked or tossed somebody. You either get the validation you're looking for or if someone disagrees with you, then they can't comprehend what they're reading or you don't care what they think. You've got a great attitude.

Not that you care what I think.

BTW, that guy must have had one helluva a mohawk for his hair to prevent you from being killed!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That guy must have had one helluva a mohawk for his hair to prevent you from being killed!

(This is no challenge since bob jenkins took a sabbatical. I really do miss him. Seriously)