Celtics/Sixers Game 7

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

You're going to ask a former NBA official to review a call by a current NBA official? How do you think he'll respond? I'll save you the time. He's going to concur: "they made the right call...charging".

Do you really think he's going to go against any call a current crew in the post season makes, especially if he know's you are going to take that opinion back to a public discussion board?

Considering he is a current NBA evaluator and someone we go to for training in my area, I think he will give his honest answer. He told me what he felt about a play last year that was a block/charge call and I asked him about before the playoffs were over last year. He has in the past used video and examples from the NBA to teach officials at camps and meetings with his knowledge. I already have a good idea what he is going to say anyway, but I would like to confirm that feeling. I also did not necessarily say I was going to bring it to the entire board either.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Here are Pierce and Young as Young establishes LGP



Young and Pierce right before contact.




So...what did Young do that was illegal? BTW, if I took a shot from two frames later Young gets hit in the chest.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Sorry fellas - watched it again. And again. I disagree that (a) defender was straight in front of the dribbler and (b) had both feet on the floor for LGP.
Really?

If he isn't straight in front of him with two feet down, I guess that is an impossible requirement. The still shot by JetMetFan above , or just slightly before that when the dribbler is turning his path from right to left, crossing the defender, is exactly that. Nothing says he has to have his feet down and be in his path for anything more than an instant....he doesn't have to be SET in his path as the dribbler comes at him as it seems you and a couple of others are implying.

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

Also disagree that any movement was "in the path" (definitely sideways). Not saying it wasn't a bang-bang play, but neither is it as obvious as you're making it out to be.

Uh, sideways is in the path if the path is shifting sideways.


Your can certainly disagree with the conclusion but your descriptions of what the player is required to do to get and maintain LGP don't match the rules.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

So...given these definitions, what did the defender do on this play that was illegal?

To the letter even.

He more than got to "the spot" first since the contact was more on his trailing side than his leading side. He was there before the dribbler. And his movement was not toward the dribbler...it was away from him.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Textbook charge....not even close.

I agree. This is not that close.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I agree. This is not that close.

I agree with Camron.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I agree. This is not that close.

At least it is not if you judge the play by the actual rules instead of by common misconceptions of what a defender can or can't do.