Jeff Van Gundy on "Flopping"

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by reffish

Is the reason the T is not called on all this faking is the penalty is too harsh? Maybe the penalty can be changed to a violation, i.e. the excessive elbows penalty. That may increase the calls on faking and flopping on the court and rid this rancid display of crap basketball. JMHO.

If it was a violation, what would the penalty be?

[reffish]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If it was a violation, what would the penalty be?

Penalty, award ball to opponent nearest spot of violation of flopping. Mechanic could be...not sure on that one yet.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by reffish

Penalty, award ball to opponent nearest spot of violation of flopping. Mechanic could be...not sure on that one yet.

A1 blows by B1. B1 flops. You stop the game and award the ball out of bounds?

Don't think so.

[reffish]

Originally Posted by just another ref

A1 blows by B1. B1 flops. You stop the game and award the ball out of bounds?

Don't think so.

Well, the penalty for "faking being fouled" is a player technical and penalty is two free throws and ball for division line throw-in. Are you going to call the technical on B1 flop?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by reffish

Well, the penalty for "faking being fouled" is a player technical and penalty is two free throws and ball for division line throw-in. Are you going to call the technical on B1 flop?

I personally have never made this call, have seen it a few times, none recently.

My point is, if you make this a violation, it won't work at all. This would actually help the defense. If your man beats you, flop. The play stops and they take it out of bounds.

[reffish]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I personally have never made this call, have seen it a few times, none recently.

My point is, if you make this a violation, it won't work at all. This would actually help the defense. If your man beats you, flop. The play stops and they take it out of bounds.

You are wise beyond your years. So, let's stick to the T and call it. I have in the past called a block if there is a bit of contact and then a flop. Usually the kid complains about the call and I inform the kid that the next time it looks like a flop, a T comes next. That generally fixes the problem with flopping.