Agree or disagree

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

This is an interesting subject as I was observed at the end of a game this season when something fairly similar happened. Here it is Unsporting (Intentional in USA), or disqualifying (flagrant) or during a dead ball or no contact its a Technical. I knew that there was going to be an attempt to foul but waited for a "deserved" foul to blow my whistle. Briefly after the whistle I see the second defender come in and knock the offense player to the floor. So I got him with a Disqualifying foul and called the initial contact as a simple personal foul.
My observer asked me why I waited to make a call and if I thought calling the play sooner would have prevented the "Hard Foul"? I believe he was right and I set the kid up (a bit, he still clobbered his opponent).

I hate observers who think like that. It is not the job of the officials to reward the team for trying to break the rules. The team which is trailing and wants to foul must do it properly. That means it needs to put the opponent at a disadvantage, but also has to be a basketball play and not excessive contact.
It is not your fault that the player wasn't able to foul correctly. Just like any other strategy which a team employs, it needs to be executed well.

[tref]

Doesn't take much to get a whistle from me on EOG fouling strategies. We know what theyre trying to do & although it wasnt a foul in the 1stQ its an accepted practice at the EOG.
We either use common sense or a football game can break out on the wood.

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

Doesn't take much to get a whistle from me on EOG fouling strategies. We know what theyre trying to do & although it wasnt a foul in the 1stQ its an accepted practice at the EOG.
We either use common sense or a football game can break out on the wood.

I concur...EOG fouling is different than fouls in other situations. And I've never heard an observer say anything different.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I concur...EOG fouling is different than fouls in other situations. And I've never heard an observer say anything different.

Agree. When you know they're going to foul, call the first contact that gives you a reasonable opportunity to call one. Don't make them escalate to the point of an intentional or flagrant.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Doesn't take much to get a whistle from me on EOG fouling strategies. We know what theyre trying to do & although it wasnt a foul in the 1stQ its an accepted practice at the EOG.
We either use common sense or a football game can break out on the wood.

I will have a quick whistle if the offense is, essentially, conceding the foul. If, however, the offense if actively trying to avoid the foul, I'm only calling an actual foul. Why should they be punished for having a lead?

I also keep an eye out for trouble, though. I called probably half a dozen intentionals in EOG situations this season; all in MS or JV games by players who just didn't know how to do it. The first thing I could even possibly call a foul on was a two hand shove or a slap on the back or....