Handling of Technical Foul

[Tio]

I have no problem with the T as long as this followed proper procedure of bench decorum (coaching box rules) and that the coach received a warning.
previously.

What I do not like is that the lead official is making the call at the other end of the court. The T and C both have a better view of the action. Was the crew on the same page in terms of enforcing bench decorum? What did they agree to in the pregame? Then I do not like the walk back to the coach and giving him the "stay put" gesture. This gesture only inflamed the situation more. Karl Hess can get away with this because of his experience. Most officials cannot especially given Pitino's legend status in the game.

You have to give Karl credit for sticking him though. He was clearly on the floor waving off the crew.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Tio

I have no problem with the T as long as this followed proper procedure of bench decorum (coaching box rules) and that the coach received a warning.
previously.

What I do not like is that the lead official is making the call at the other end of the court. The T and C both have a better view of the action. Was the crew on the same page in terms of enforcing bench decorum? What did they agree to in the pregame? Then I do not like the walk back to the coach and giving him the "stay put" gesture. This gesture only inflamed the situation more. Karl Hess can get away with this because of his experience. Most officials cannot especially given Pitino's legend status in the game.

You have to give Karl credit for sticking him though. He was clearly on the floor waving off the crew.

I have no problem with Hess walking the coach back to the box and communicating (verbally or non-verbally) that he needs to stay within the box. Leaves no doubt as to the expectations for the rest of the game.

[Tio]

I disagree, but hey, there is no right way to manage this.

What if Hess walks back to Pitino and he goes nuts and we have to toss him? I think we go looking for trouble if we head over there during an extremely emotional situation. If we ever do have to toss the coach, IMO it is always best that a different crew member issue the second T.

[fiasco]

It's next to impossible to give an opinion on something like this, because we have no idea what was said to whom, when and how. That being said, I liked the way Hess walked Pitino back to his bench area rather than overreacting at the scorer's table.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Tio

I disagree, but hey, there is no right way to manage this.

What if Hess walks back to Pitino and he goes nuts and we have to toss him? I think we go looking for trouble if we head over there during an extremely emotional situation. If we ever do have to toss the coach, IMO it is always best that a different crew member issue the second T.

Hess didn't "walk back" to Pitino...Pitino was at the table chewing on Hess and Hess ushered him back to his box, pointed out the box, and then walked away. So I'm really not sure what you are talking about in your post...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Hess didn't "walk back" to Pitino...Pitino was at the table chewing on Hess and Hess ushered him back to his box, pointed out the box, and then walked away. ...

That's how I saw it. Guys I work for want coaches who are out of the box addressed. Doesn't have to be a Tech or a formal warning, but they want it addressed so the HC is clear as to our expectations.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That's how I saw it. Guys I work for want coaches who are out of the box addressed. Doesn't have to be a Tech or a formal warning, but they want it addressed so the HC is clear as to our expectations.

Same here, but I'm wondering why Hess was at the table in the first place? He stuck RP from the f/c endline

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

Same here, but I'm wondering why Hess was at the table in the first place? He stuck RP from the f/c endline

Making sure the table knew the correct procedure for handling a personal foul and a T???

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Tio

I disagree, but hey, there is no right way to manage this.

What if Hess walks back to Pitino and he goes nuts and we have to toss him? I think we go looking for trouble if we head over there during an extremely emotional situation. If we ever do have to toss the coach, IMO it is always best that a different crew member issue the second T.

If he gets toss that is on Pitino. I do not blame Hess for that at all. And Pitino came to him. Remember we have to report the foul and probably had a situation where he had to explain something to the table, as we know they often get things screwed up. We need to get rid of that silly standard that only another person can give the second T (and I still am not sure that Hess was the person that called the original T). If a coach is disrespectful and says the right things and does the right things, he needs to go regardless of who is there to hear or see the actions.

Peace