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JRutledge Sun Mar 25, 2012 04:39pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 834215)
NFHS 10-3-3,and nowhere does it say "excessively."
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Art. 3. Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.
No where?

Peace

JRutledge Sun Mar 25, 2012 04:48pm
I just saw a missed dunk from a Kansas player that was a lot worse than the Baylor play we are talking about and nothing was called. And no foul was given either.

Peace

canuckrefguy Sun Mar 25, 2012 05:06pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 834212)
I am not seeing this slap on the backboard you are convinced that took place.
That's because it didn't happen.

Go to :29 of the video for the best look.

JRutledge Sun Mar 25, 2012 05:09pm
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Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 834220)
That's because it didn't happen.

Go to :29 of the video for the best look.
If I have to go back to the video again to see something I never saw in the first place, then it must not have been significant for me to say was illegal. There is nothing in the rules that says touching the backboard is illegal, especially when it is inadvertent at best.

Peace

icallfouls Sun Mar 25, 2012 05:46pm
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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 834208)
Yes, she did. Her left hand. You can hear it also (because of the mics on the backboard)
Brad, you're making stuff up. What you hear is the rim snapping back. Her left hand gets caught in the net and never makes contact with backboard.

Maineac Sun Mar 25, 2012 06:34pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 834114)
In this neck of the woods, this would likely be a T.
Not in my neck of this neck of the woods.

HawkeyeCubP Sun Mar 25, 2012 09:13pm
Interesting how divided we are on this one.

I say no. Elbows barely bent beyond normal swinging motion.

just another ref Sun Mar 25, 2012 09:19pm
There are a hundred dunks a week in men's games which are this "excessive" on the rim and receive 0 attention.

bainsey Sun Mar 25, 2012 09:26pm
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Originally Posted by JRut's 10-3-3
Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.
Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...

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(A player shall not) Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury; dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball.
I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?

just another ref Sun Mar 25, 2012 09:38pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 834257)
Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...



I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?


NCAA rules 10-6-1f

JRutledge Sun Mar 25, 2012 09:49pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 834257)
Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...



I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?
Yes, and this was an NCAA game not a NF game.

Peace

bainsey Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 834262)
Yes, and this was an NCAA game not a NF game.
Right, but the OP asked...

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Originally Posted by DesMoines (Post 834106)
If this were an NFHS game, does the player's action rise to the level of unsportsmanlike?
Unsportsmanlike conduct isn't actually relevant to the rule, so what I believe he's asking is whether the act rises to meet 10-3-3.

JRutledge Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 834266)
Right, but the OP asked...



Unsportsmanlike conduct isn't actually relevant to the rule, so what I believe he's asking is whether the act rises to meet 10-3-3.
My comments you responded to were not about the NF Rules. I was responding to Brad who was talking about the NCAA rule wording.

Not every comment or conversation is about the OP. ;)

Peace

DesMoines Mon Mar 26, 2012 07:37am
Go figure.
 
I never dreamed this would generate so much discussion. Very interesting.

BTW: I'm headed to the Baylor-Tennessee women's game tonight here in Des Moines. We'll see if she dunks again.

Brad Mon Mar 26, 2012 08:46am
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Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 834222)
Brad, you're making stuff up. What you hear is the rim snapping back. Her left hand gets caught in the net and never makes contact with backboard.
It's clear as day to me ... of course, others sometimes have to wait for another angle of the video to be shown that I am right —*like in the goaltending thread from a few weeks back :D


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