Charles Barkley...

[APG]

Originally Posted by Duffman

Ummmmm you guys realize in college they can enter on the release right?

Only players in marked lane spaces...everyone else has to wait till it hits the rim/backboard.

[Duffman]

Ahhhh got ya, I'm in a bar, no sound. The telecast focused on tube players opposit of the lane, if it was a player outside the arc its a totally different story.

[Pumpy25]

why not warn the players? you do for holding, when they can run the baseline, etc. This official was itching to call this. I've never seen it called all year, but he can high five, bc its the right call. Must have been an official meeting to watch for it and he was waiting to call it, rather than focus on obvious fouls that happen, moving screens. If its the letter of the law call traveling, palming, flopping, etc.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

I love having every game available on every channel but it has its downside-Charles Barkley and most of his Turner co-horts.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Greg Anthony.

I (somewhat) understand why CBS is using TBS's NBA crew; since CBS is using the TBS network to air games, in exchange the TBS commentators get air on CBS.

But surely someone has told them if they are going to rag on officials, that they need to understand the rules and philosophies are different from what they know about the NBA.

Surely. Someone?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Pumpy25

why not warn the players? you do for holding, when they can run the baseline, etc. This official was itching to call this. I've never seen it called all year, but he can high five, bc its the right call. Must have been an official meeting to watch for it and he was waiting to call it, rather than focus on obvious fouls that happen, moving screens. If its the letter of the law call traveling, palming, flopping, etc.

I've haven't seen players run in from the three point line...4-5 steps early all year. If a player violates so clearly before you can warn them, that's on them. It's the same with fouls...if a player fouls before you can warn them, that's still on them.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I (somewhat) understand why CBS is using TBS's NBA crew; since CBS is using the TBS network to air games, in exchange the TBS commentators get air on CBS.

But surely someone has told them if they are going to rag on officials, that they need to understand the rules and philosophies are different from what they know about the NBA.

Surely. Someone?

Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?

[lpneck]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Agreed.

Also, who was the other commentator that effectively said the officials should not have penalized the lane violation, but just given them a warning first?

Stupid commentators.

To be fair to Kenny Smith, I believe his point was that if you see a player lined up on the arc, looking like he's going to go get the rebound come hell or high water, you can preventatively say "make sure it hits the rim." I have done this before.

I don't think he meant warn rather than penalize after the act.

We now return to the extremely well-deserved bashing of Sir Charles.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by lpneck

...you can preventatively say "make sure it hits the rim." I have done this before.

Why? It doesn't have to hit the rim before he enters.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Why? It doesn't have to hit the rim before he enters.

Drats, you beat me to it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Why? It doesn't have to hit the rim before he enters.

For that matter, it may never hit the rim and still be legal.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by lpneck

To be fair to Kenny Smith, I believe his point was that if you see a player lined up on the arc, looking like he's going to go get the rebound come hell or high water, you can preventatively say "make sure it hits the rim." I have done this before.

I don't think he meant warn rather than penalize after the act.

We now return to the extremely well-deserved bashing of Sir Charles.

Maybe that's what he meant, but that's not the impression I got when I heard it. I wish APG had access to more video...

While I understand sometimes saying something to a player, at that level they better know a basic rule like this on their own. Or, it's on their coaching staff for not properly preparing them. But if the player does it that obviously, it should be called. Or, the officials will not advance to the next round.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Maybe that's what he meant, but that's not the impression I got when I heard it. I wish APG had access to more video...

While I understand sometimes saying something to a player, at that level they better know a basic rule like this on their own. Or, it's on their coaching staff for not properly preparing them. But if the player does it that obviously, it should be called. Or, the officials will not advance to the next round.

I have no problem saying something to a player - I do it in H.S. and college - to keep them from going inside the three-point arc too early if they're not on the lane. It's no different than talking kids out of the lane for three seconds and a number of my assignors over the years have encouraged it.

That being said, if the kid has a brain lock and goes in - especially after I tell them "remember, let it hit" - that's on them.

And yes, I know it doesn't have to hit anything for them to go inside the three-point arc but if they're waiting for the ball to hit something and it doesn't they're not at a disadvantage since that's a violation on the shooter.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by bgredmchn

I agree. He needs to stick to the NBA. Referees shouldn't decide the game, players should he says. Well, a player decided to break a rule. I wonder how long HE would last with a whistle.

If it is anything like his golf swing....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Pumpy25

why not warn the players? you do for holding, when they can run the baseline, etc. This official was itching to call this. I've never seen it called all year, but he can high five, bc its the right call. Must have been an official meeting to watch for it and he was waiting to call it, rather than focus on obvious fouls that happen, moving screens. If its the letter of the law call traveling, palming, flopping, etc.

So, uh, what's a moving screen?

This is a great time of year on the board....

Silly fans.