NFHS closely guarded rule

[JetMetFan]

If another defender switches onto the offensive player, assumes a closely-guarded situation and then the first defender leaves, the count continues.

9.10.1 SITUATION B:

While dribbling in A's frontcourt, A1 is closely guarded by B1. After two seconds, B2 also assumes a closely-guarded position on A1 and B1 leaves to guard A2.

RULING: The closely-guarded count continues. There is no requirement for the defensive player to remain the same during the count as long as A1 is closely-guarded throughout.

[BillyMac]

Defensive player B1 is closely guarding, less than six feet, dribbler A1. A1 dribbles, shoulder to shoulder, past legal screener A2. B1 goes behind screener A2 and still maintains a distance of less than six feet from the dribbler A1. Defensive player B1 continues to closely guard, less than six feet, dribbler A1 on the other side of the screen.

In a NFHS high school game, does the official continue his closely guarded count throughout this play?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Defensive player B1 is closely guarding, less than six feet, dribbler A1. A1 dribbles, shoulder to shoulder, past legal screener A2. B1 goes behind screener A2 and still maintains a distance of less than six feet from the dribbler A1. Defensive player B1 continues to closely guard, less than six feet, dribbler A1 on the other side of the screen.

In a NFHS high school game, does the official continue his closely guarded count throughout this play?

You had to bring up that one, didn't you?

Since I read the case book play as I searched for the rule citation in my other post I'll exclude myself from answering.

[APG]

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

Actually, he didn't get smacked. My player got smacked with a T for complaining that no one was even close to him. It was pretty comical because he was our point guard standing between the top of the key and half court re-setting the offense. This was an AAU game, using NFHS-rules, so I don't believe we had high school caliber refs.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

Actually, he didn't get smacked. My player got smacked with a T for complaining that no one was even close to him. It was pretty comical because he was our point guard standing between the top of the key and half court re-setting the offense. This was an AAU game, using NFHS-rules, so I don't believe we had high school caliber refs.

So the official called the 5 second violation? Where was the defender?

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So the official called the 5 second violation? Where was the defender?

The free throw line.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

Actually, he didn't get smacked. My player got smacked with a T for complaining that no one was even close to him. It was pretty comical because he was our point guard standing between the top of the key and half court re-setting the offense. This was an AAU game, using NFHS-rules, so I don't believe we had high school caliber refs.

can you be more specific? the ft line to the top of the arc is only 3 feet and 3 feet beyond that is still between the half court line and the top of the arc, which is 6 feet, so it is possible to have a count

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

the ft line to the top of the arc is only 3 feet...

You may want to re-check the ol' court diagram in any rule book. Or online. Or anywhere.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That official should be smacked for screwing up such a basic rule.

Hey, we all learn sometime.

A few years ago, I had a five-second violation in a middle school boys' game. The coach was stunned, replying, "THAT was three feet?!"

I smiled, I informed, and he learned.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Hey, we all learn sometime.

A few years ago, I had a five-second violation in a middle school boys' game. The coach was stunned, replying, "THAT was three feet?!"

I smiled, I informed, and he learned.

You're right...I was too harsh with that statement.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You had to bring up that one, didn't you? Since I read the case book play as I searched for the rule citation in my other post I'll exclude myself from answering.

9.10.1 SITUATION D: Team A, while in possession of the ball in its frontcourt:
(a) positions four players parallel with the sideline and they pass the ball from one
to another with their arms reaching beyond the sideline plane; or (b) has four
teammates surround dribbler A1. In both (a) and (b), the opponents are unable
to get close to the ball. RULING: This is considered to be a closely-guarded
situation and a violation in five seconds in both (a) and (b), if any B player is
within 6 feet of the ball or within 6 feet of the screening teammates and is
attempting to gain control of the ball. Preventing opponents from getting to the
ball by using screening teammates becomes a violation in five seconds if the
opponents are attempting to gain control.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

You had to bring up that one, didn't you?

This was one of those controversial IAABO Refresher Exam questions a few years ago. Most of us said to continue the five second count. IAABO said no. Eventually IAABO told us that they had mixed up the NFHS interpretation with the NCAA interpretation.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Defensive player B1 is closely guarding, less than six feet, dribbler A1. A1 dribbles, shoulder to shoulder, past legal screener A2. B1 goes behind screener A2 and still maintains a distance of less than six feet from the dribbler A1. Defensive player B1 continues to closely guard, less than six feet, dribbler A1 on the other side of the screen.

In a NFHS high school game, does the official continue his closely guarded count throughout this play?

I say yes according to the case play but let me see your bet and raise you one. What if ball handler A1 is more than six feet from B1 but is screened by A2. B1 is still attempting to get through the screen but is less than 6 feet from A2. Does the count still continue.

Then add this. A1 gets head and shoulders past the screened defender on the way for a lay up because of the screen, but defender gets back in front before the lay up and 5 seconds has expired. What do you have then?