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Old Fri Mar 09, 2012, 11:41am
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Why not? Where specifically do you draw your line in determining which violations you use A/D, and which ones you don't?
Off the top of my head: Three seconds, and ten seconds (free throws). I have heard that others consider advantage/disadvantage when calling carrying, but I'm on the fence on that one.

How about you M&M Guy? Where's your line in the sand? How many ten second free throw violations have you called? Have you never passed on a three second violation? Ever?

I still challenge anyone to cite anything that states that only fouls, and nothing other than fouls, fall under the advantage/disadvantage principle, or that violations, specifically, do not fall under the advantage/disadvantage principle.

I'm still waiting.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2012, 12:12pm
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Off the top of my head: Three seconds, and ten seconds (free throws). I have heard that others consider advantage/disadvantage when calling carrying, but I'm on the fence on that one.
What rule, casebook play, or interp can you cite that allows you to use A/D on *only* these violations? What about the rule that requires B to occupy the 1st spot along the lane during a FT? What possible advantage is there if B isn't there during the first of 2 FT's? Since you consider A/D on the 10-sec. count on FT's, do you do the same on the 10-sec. backcourt count? What's the difference?

The reason I'm asking you these questions, and not answering yours, is you seem to be most emphatic about your stance, even in the face of certain case plays that might suggest otherwise. The Comment in 9.2.5 Sit A seems especially telling: "Whether or not there was defensive pressure or whether or not stepping on the court was inadvertent, it is a violation and no judgment is required in making the call." Your stance seems to be based on something *not* being mentioned.
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