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Old Thu Mar 08, 2012, 08:27am
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I agree that there are more PC fouls in today game (NBA-HS) than there were even a decade ago when I was playing. That said I don't chalk that up to changes in officiating, rather changes in defensive strategy.

Defenders are much smarter than they were 15 years ago. They understand the rule better and they use it to their advantage. Ten years ago I went a whole season without seeing a pass and crash, or a defender trying to draw a charge on a back to the basket post player with a ball on the block. Today its common place. Virtually every team now has a "charge specialist". Someone who actively looks to take charges on defense. Sometimes to the point that they are more concerned drawing charges than they are defending a basket.

As officials I don't think there is much we can do other than enforce the rules as written
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2012, 07:24pm
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And here's Dan Dakich's contribution, after a player slides on the floor and takes out an opponent's legs: "You can't call a foul on that, the ball was loose!"

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Old Thu Mar 08, 2012, 07:44pm
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I've said this before, but the NBA rules are written to favor the offense and encourage high scoring games and allow for dunks. This is because the NBA executives and TV people believe that high scoring games sell more tickets and generate a larger viewing audience.
Want specific examples? -- The "upward motion" wording of the NBA's block/charge rule, the adding of the restricted area around the basket, the more liberal continuous motion rule.

This mentality filters down to the NCAA and HS levels, where in many cases the concepts aren't supported by the actual rules. How much did we hear about the defender being under the basket before the NCAA put in a rule with an imaginary area and then added the arc, and we still hear that complaint at the HS level.

The HS rules are still the more balanced between offense and defense. The NCAA is moving more toward the entertainment show that the NBA puts on.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2012, 08:17pm
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This mentality filters down to the NCAA and HS levels, where in many cases the concepts aren't supported by the actual rules. How much did we hear about the defender being under the basket before the NCAA put in a rule with an imaginary area and then added the arc, and we still hear that complaint at the HS level.

The HS rules are still the more balanced between offense and defense. The NCAA is moving more toward the entertainment show that the NBA puts on.
Actually the purpose of the rule was/is safety. The RA is in place to prevent unnecessary contact under the basket that was only intended to get a cheap foul or create contact that would ordinarily not take place. Actually I think the rule does just that and either makes the defender come out further from the basket to take a charge or they let the shooter go to the basket without a crash. I rarely see anyone in the HS game that tries to get a charge under the basket regardless of what the rule says.

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Old Thu Mar 08, 2012, 08:22pm
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Actually the purpose of the rule was/is safety. The RA is in place to prevent unnecessary contact under the basket that was only intended to get a cheap foul or create contact that would ordinarily not take place. Actually I think the rule does just that and either makes the defender come out further from the basket to take a charge or they let the shooter go to the basket without a crash. I rarely see anyone in the HS game that tries to get a charge under the basket regardless of what the rule says.

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I agree. I never thought parking oneself just in front of the landing spot was good defense.
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Actually the purpose of the rule was/is safety. The RA is in place to prevent unnecessary contact under the basket that was only intended to get a cheap foul or create contact that would ordinarily not take place. Actually I think the rule does just that and either makes the defender come out further from the basket to take a charge or they let the shooter go to the basket without a crash. I rarely see anyone in the HS game that tries to get a charge under the basket regardless of what the rule says.

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That or forces the defender to actually try and defend the shot by blocking it. I've never had a problem with the rule, and I think it's working out alright at the NCAA level.
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That or forces the defender to actually try and defend the shot by blocking it. I've never had a problem with the rule, and I think it's working out alright at the NCAA level.
John Adams commented on this a few weeks ago in a video bulletin. I am just repeating his take and what they commented on what was the purpose of this rule change.

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John Adams commented on this a few weeks ago in a video bulletin. I am just repeating his take and what they commented on what was the purpose of this rule change.

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Those of us who officiate girls' high school ball in NYS will be using the RA next season since we use modified NCAA rules.
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And here's Dan Dakich's contribution, after a player slides on the floor and takes out an opponent's legs: "You can't call a foul on that, the ball was loose!"

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Your rule book doesn't say "in the event of a loose ball, anarchy shall ensue"??
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