Incorrect travel

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by tref

1. A1 jumps to attempt a layup, B1 caps the ball up high. The ball comes loose while both players are in the air, on the way down A1 regains control of the ball, then lands. The official calls travelling. Coach & fans go nutz & you have a great look.

2. A1 drives to the basket, gathers the ball then bobbles it & completes the layup. Official calls travel on the team that is up by 15+ & nobody says boo, but you have a great look.

3. A1 trapped by B1 & B2 just beyond the timeline in a pressing transition situation, the T has backs & butts. From L you clearly see B1 has a hand firmly on the ball. A1 moves his feet beyond the prescribed limits as B1 still has the ball. The T calls travel. Coach & fans go nutz & you have a great look.

In which of these win or go home game situations do you provide information to the calling official?

Play #1: I assume the word "cap" means that B1 placed his hand(s) on the ball and prevented A1 from releasing it on a try; if that is the case, then the correct ruling is a Held Ball (HB).


Play #2: I need more information. Did A1 bobble the ball while still in contact with floor or was he already airborne? This could be a HTBT play.


Play #3: B1 having his hand firmly on the ball does not necessarily mean that a HB has occured. Example: A1 is holding the ball in front of himself using both hands (one on each side of the ball), B1 is defending A1 and places his right hand firmly on top of the ball; this is not a HB. Again, this is probably a HTBT play.

You don't in any of them.

MTD, Sr.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Play #2: I need more information. Did A1 bobble the ball while still in contact with floor or was he already airborne? This could be a HTBT play.

You don't in any of them.

MTD, Sr.

Yes, he gathered the ball on the floor, bobbled while taking his first step, regained control & scored.

Let him live & die in all cases, thanks!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tref

Yes, he gathered the ball on the floor, bobbled while taking his first step, regained control & scored.

Let him live & die in all cases, thanks!

Can't travel unless you're holding the ball (one exception noted) so this is just an "ugly".....but not a travel.

But, I'm not going to offer input on my partner's call on this one since it is a judgement about whether and when the player was in control/holding the ball.

As for the the others...

#1, if the official had a "cap" worthy of a held ball, the official should call it....otherwise stay out of it. The partner may be getting it wrong, technically, but this is not the kind of play that I want to get involved in on the court. We can talk about it later....for all I know, he/she saw it completely differently than I did.

#3 The Trail will have to deal this on their own. I have no business watching a trap that is 40-50 feet from me.....in fact, I once had a partner, as lead and across the court on the endline, make a call (not traveling or held ball) from a similar position when I was the trail and under 10 feet from the play with a perfect angle and he was 100% wrong. The coach let him know...and, after the game, I let him know.