Hot dog player talking

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Nope. I'm fine with this verbiage. No direct threat.

Me too, although I am questioning whether two cents is enough for a good reading education.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

"Coach, I will watch for that.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Be careful, RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that.

If I got a dollar every time I've said this to a coach over thirty-one years, I'd be a very rich man today. Sometimes I actually meant it. Wait? I can't lie. A few times I actually meant it.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If I got a dollar every time I've said this to a coach over thirty-one years, I'd be a very rich man today. Sometimes I actually meant it. Wait? I can't lie. A few times I actually meant it.

What I've found that works numerous times is to actually watch specifically for a certain event that a coach believes is affecting his team - every time.

When I am able to back up my call or non-call with a step by step prognosis of what happened, I dare say all coaches have accepted my judgement without question.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Be careful....RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that....

Hmmmm...I can't read minds, but I don't think they will think that.

But then, maybe they have decided to kick me out of the "group think" group and haven't told me yet!

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Be careful....RichMSN and Snaqwells with think you're "backing yourself into a corner" if you do that....

If that's how you took it, you obviously don't understand what they were saying.

Never use ultimatums... "Not one more word, coach..." or "Next time is a T". There's no need to threaten, and the ultimatum puts you in the position of backing up your word when something happens that you MIGHT have let slide had you not dropped the threat.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

If that's how you took it, you obviously don't understand what they were saying.

Never use ultimatums... "Not one more word, coach..." or "Next time is a T". There's no need to threaten, and the ultimatum puts you in the position of backing up your word when something happens that you MIGHT have let slide had you not dropped the threat.

what is this.... some sort of political discussion where liberal and conservative commentators are ridiculously parsing words to extract an obfuscated meaning that belies the original intent of the message?....

what's the difference between: "Next time is a T" or "Next time I will take care of it myself"?

the answer: nothing.

btw, what you've described as an "ultimatum", is simply an official telling a coach/player that the behavior in question is unacceptable and then explaining the consequence that will occur if/when the behavior is repeated.

that is EXACTLY the same formula used in the rulebook (i.e. if you travel...the other team gets the ball....).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Me: "Coach, I will watch for that. In the meantime, you can take care of your player or I can. It's up to you."

And then walk away from him/her.

If coach deals with that kid, then we are ok. If coach doesn't, then the next time that player complains to anyone on the crew, I will assess the T.

Or, "Coach, he forfeited your right to bring that up right now when he pulled that stunt."