Karl Hess tosses two NC State players

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is wonderful, but that is a place of education and if they are calling people out by racial, sexual and other inappropriate comments like that, they would be gone. And those comments are not allowed in other aspects of any university life or on campus, why allowable here? And I have been called a racial slur and guess what you think happened to those individuals?

That is not ignorance, that is policy. I doubt seriously that the officials are told to ignore those kinds of comments even if you do not agree with them. I did not see the people at the school objecting and I am sure the conference did not either if those comments I mentioned above took place.

Peace

ESPN gave the big name anchor a 30 day suspension for Jeremy Lin comments, but the no name headline writer got canned. So, to see these guys milking this story is irritating, to say the least.
He got rid of those guys a lot quicker than if he had searched around to find game management, which should have been prominently seated at the table.

[APG]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I'm saying yes. You don't get to that level worrying about what people are saying from the stands. They don't know me or my upbring to even comment on it.

It shows their ignorance in my book.

You just smile and say thank you and keep it moving.

You don't think people at that level are going to take care of an idiot fan who is saying obscene comments (sexual/racial/ethic slurs, etc) loud and clear enough to be identified?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You don't think people at that level are going to take care of an idiot fan who is saying obscene comments (sexual/racial/ethic slurs, etc) loud and clear enough to be identified?

Come on, how do we know any sexual, racial, ethic slurs occurred? This is quite a reach. I belive if those things happened. Someone other than Mr. Hess would have taken care of it. I know I would have if I was in the stands witnessing this behavior.

[APG]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Come on, how do we know any sexual, racial, ethic slurs occurred? This is quite a reach. I belive if those things happened. Someone other than Mr. Hess would have taken care of it. I know I would have if I was in the stands witnessing this behavior.

I thought we were talking in a more general sense...not specific to what the Mr. Hess did...your reply to JRut, saying you would ignore racial/sexual slurs or at this level, made it seem like you believe those type of comments are routinely ignored or that you would ignore them. I got that sense from your "sticks and stones" bit...if I was wrong then I apologize.

As far as what Mr. Hess did, we don't know his side of the story, nor what he heard say. We only know what the fans told the local media what they said. The only thing we DO know is Mr. Hess should have gone through game management and had them deal with the fans.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I thought we were talking in a more general sense...not specific to what the Mr. Hess did...your reply to JRut, saying you would ignore racial/sexual slurs or at this level, made it seem like you believe those type of comments are routinely ignored or that you would ignore them. I got that sense from your "sticks and stones" bit...if I was wrong then I apologize.

As far as what Mr. Hess did, we don't know his side of the story, nor what he heard say. We only know what the fans told the local media what they said. The only thing we DO know is Mr. Hess should have gone through game management and had them deal with the fans.

There is more than one way to handle a situation.

1. I can include the behavior in my report after the game. Silently bring attention to the situation with the University and allow them to handle it.

2. I would do this at do this at the high school level too. File a report with the state and allow them to address the behavior. (At the high school level most scorekeeper, timers work for the school district) So if i hear it they can hear it too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Come on, how do we know any sexual, racial, ethic slurs occurred? This is quite a reach. I belive if those things happened. Someone other than Mr. Hess would have taken care of it. I know I would have if I was in the stands witnessing this behavior.

You do not know what they said and we cannot assume that those things were not said. I know I just posed the question because I know of situations where things were said that were of that nature. I know I would not hesitate to get rid of a fan in those cases.

I also find it funny that people have standards for ejecting players or coaches if they use a certain word, but we are supposed to just turn the other cheek in a educational environment that would not be acceptable in any other aspect of life.

Peace

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You do not know what they said and we cannot assume that those things were not said. I know I just posed the question because I know of situations where things were said that were of that nature. I know I would not hesitate to get rid of a fan in those cases.

I also find it funny that people have standards for ejecting players or coaches if they use a certain word, but we are supposed to just turn the other cheek in a educational environment that would not be acceptable in any other aspect of life.

Peace

1. How can we assume they were said?

2. It is indeed funny.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by truerookie

The bottom line is Mr. Hess should not have interacted with them unless they were threatening him/partners physically.

It reminds me of a saying my parents told me while growing up.

"Stick and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt"

1. You don't know enough to reach your bottom line.

2. Physical threats aren't the only thing we need to address.

3. It was a stupid saying when I was a kid, and it's a stupid saying now.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

1. You don't know enough to reach your bottom line.

2. Physical threats aren't the only thing we need to address.

3. It was a stupid saying when I was a kid, and it's a stupid saying now.

1. You don't know what I know.

2. Physical threats are the only things i would concern myself with.

3. Yep, I expected that mindset.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by truerookie

1. You don't know what I know.

2. Physical threats are the only things i would concern myself with.

3. Yep, I expected that mindset.

I agree with Snaqwells. It is a stupid saying. Tell a kid who has grown up with a verbally abusive parent, that words don't hurt. They do!

Death and life are in the power of the tongue.... Proverbs 18:21

[mean Gene]

Mr Hess is a dentist, I guess he got tired of the bull that the 2 All Stars were putting out. I think that Ms Yow needs to worry about her fans as Mr Hess has call several final fours and knows what he is doing. Shame on Ms Yow, she is a piece of work in the wrong direction!

[jmwking]

There appear to be more witnesses to the event beyond Hess, Yow, and the two former players: There are at least a couple people sitting at the scorers' table with ACC vests on. I'd love to hear what they had to say - and I image Clougherty has.

I doubt we'll ever have a fuller accounting, though, so we'll be left speculating and second guessing and presuming the best or worst of the individuals involved.

[Wellmer]

Do you think Karl will be working the ceremonial NC State game coming up? Doubt it

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by mean Gene

Mr Hess is a dentist, I guess he got tired of the bull that the 2 All Stars were putting out. I think that Ms Yow needs to worry about her fans as Mr Hess has call several final fours and knows what he is doing. Shame on Ms Yow, she is a piece of work in the wrong direction!

He is not a dentist. He is a therapist

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Judtech

He is not a dentist. He is a therapist

Maybe he's a therapeutic dentist?