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fiasco Sat Feb 18, 2012 06:03pm

Karl Hess tosses two NC State players
 
Make that former players. From the stands.

Link

refiator Sat Feb 18, 2012 09:32pm

Unbelievable....or not. But I love it.
I had a state tourney game today where 2 fans were removed...they were sitting behind the scorers table, and, unbeknownst to them, behind the site manager, who had them removed them for yelling disparaging statements about the officials. It turns out that they were the AD and Asst AD of the team that won by more than 20. Nice example.

Adam Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:59pm

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 825506)
Unbelievable....or not. But I love it.
I had a state tourney game today where 2 fans were removed...they were sitting behind the scorers table, and, unbeknownst to them, behind the site manager, who had them removed them for yelling disparaging statements about the officials. It turns out that they were the AD and Asst AD of the team that won by more than 20. Nice example.


That sort of behavior should be pubicized in the papers. Horrible that adults get away with this crap.

BballRookie Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:28pm

Karl Hess Ejects Tom Gugliotta, Chris Corchiani - YouTube

This is a youtube link of the guys getting tossed. Sitting right behind the scorers table I'm sure they got in some nasty shots throughout the game.

BktBallRef Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:30pm

I don't know what was said but I know a few things.

1- if the idiot is right behind the table and is a distractions when we're trying to report, then I'm much more likely to get rid of them.

2- my guess is they got personal with Hess.

3- Hess bought himself some unneeded publicity.

mbyron Sun Feb 19, 2012 09:09am

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7zhHTpzJMpE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

26 Year Gap Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:28am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 825588)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7zhHTpzJMpE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Looks like Corchiani got an assist.

asdf Sun Feb 19, 2012 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 825624)
Looks like Corchiani got an assist.

Great example setters for their kids.

Freaking clowns.....

twocentsworth Sun Feb 19, 2012 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 825686)
Great example setters for their kids.

Freaking clowns.....

ur right....Karl Hess is a freaking clown!

CaRef5 Sun Feb 19, 2012 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 825695)
ur right....Karl Hess is a freaking clown!

you're an idiot.

JRutledge Sun Feb 19, 2012 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 825517)
I don't know what was said but I know a few things.

1- if the idiot is right behind the table and is a distractions when we're trying to report, then I'm much more likely to get rid of them.

2- my guess is they got personal with Hess.

3- Hess bought himself some unneeded publicity.

Why is it unneeded? Was he doing his job? That is all that matters. If they got very personal they needed to go. And the comments did not have to be directed at Hess, they could have been about his partners or something that would be totally inappropriate. It probably happens more often but this happened to be two former players of that school and it made SportsCenter. And with everything on YouTube and Twitter (Corchiani Tweeted comments about Hess and being ejected), not much you can do to avoid the publicity in these days.

Peace

APG Sun Feb 19, 2012 03:20pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 825719)
Why is it unneeded? Was he doing his job? That is all that matters. If they got very personal they needed to go. And the comments did not have to be directed at Hess, they could have been about his partners or something that would be totally inappropriate. It probably happens more often but this happened to be two former players of that school and it made SportsCenter. And with everything on YouTube and Twitter (Corchiani Tweeted comments about Hess and being ejected), not much you can do to avoid the publicity in these days.

Peace

Peace

I think BBR meant unneeded in the sense that Karl Hess could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

BillyMac Sun Feb 19, 2012 03:28pm

It's Not My Job, Man ...
 
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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 825720)
Could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

Agree. He gave them the old baseball "You're Outta Here" heave-ho signal. I know more about medieval literature than I do about how to deal with an NCAA crowd, but in dealing with my high school crowds, I do not interact directly with unruly fans, I go directly to the site director, and let him deal with them. That's why he gets paid the big bucks.

JRutledge Sun Feb 19, 2012 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 825720)
I think BBR meant unneeded in the sense that Karl Hess could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

He is at the table and they are saying things to him. I agree he could have walked away in a perfect world, but usually that is how you get in contact with GM is at the scorer's table. I doubt Hess or any of the officials would have gone to them at some other part of the arena unless they knew for certain where someone in charge could be.

Peace

26 Year Gap Sun Feb 19, 2012 04:28pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 825723)
He is at the table and they are saying things to him. I agree he could have walked away in a perfect world, but usually that is how you get in contact with GM is at the scorer's table. I doubt Hess or any of the officials would have gone to them at some other part of the arena unless they knew for certain where someone in charge could be.

Peace

The game manager with the badge showed up fairly quickly. Playing to the moron fans on the way out should have gotten a game ban from the school. Doubt that will happen, though.


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