One and one signal

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Sometimes, I say "let it hit," or "watch your toes" (in lower level games when I see a need), but not as often as I used to. Now that I think of it, I can't remember saying it this season in a game higher than middle school.

[bigwhistle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

I don't look at the table. I signal that way while I back out, making sure the thrower secures my bounced ball, and watching the other players.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Why do you look at the table? .... And what are you looking for anyway?

Glance at the table to check for subs??

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by refiator

Glance at the table to check for subs??

Isn't that the trail's job?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Isn't that the trail's job?

Why would the Lead not look at the table for subs? Aren't they the ones that administering the ball and need to know also if someone is eligible to come in the game? And considering the Trial's responsibility in 2 Person, they have their back to the table.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And considering the Trial's responsibility in 2 Person, they have their back to the table.

Sorry. I forgot to mention that, here in the Constitution State, we're 100% IAABO, and after switching, the new trail is always opposite the table when free throws will ensue.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sorry. I forgot to mention that, here in the Constitution State, we're 100% IAABO, and after switching, the new trail is always opposite the table when free throws will ensue.

Still even if that is the case, I still will look at the table for subs as the Lead official and I do not work 2 Person at all in the season. I think it is good teamwork officiating to do so. Because if we miss a sub, we all are going to be held responsible. It is the Trail's responsibility first, but the crews responsibility to know as well.

Peace

[Bird Dog]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

...I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

Depends on the level. If all you call is varsity or higher, okay. But as a first year official my schedule was made up of middle school, frosh & JV. I found if I verbalized just "Let it hit" or "Rest" at these levels, it will help cut down on lane violations. As this season has progressed (and presumably the players have gotten better), I find myself saying it less and less, and just going with "One" or "Two" or whatever number we're shooting while making eye contact with the table and my partner (2 man).

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Hook 'em Horns while torquing my wrist back and forth and loudly verbalizing 1 and 1. Each index finger high up in the air toward table once I get back to the endline.

I thought I was the only one that did this?! Except I don't use the classic 1-&-1 signal at the end (see below). I used the hold-the-ball-between-your-arms method for most of the season before switching to the Hook'em Horns. Of course, I'll also verbalize it, loudly. Again, at the MS/Frosh/JV level, I found the bounce method was way too short. I like to hold my hand signal up for a good 2-3 seconds so ALL the players, the table and my partner know what we're doing. The split second of a bounce is just too short for the attention span of younger players.

Also, I don't do anything after bouncing the ball to the shooter. Everyone's eyes naturally follow the ball, including the players on the lane, the table, the spectators, etc. So it feels pointless to make a signal when no one's watching; but before I bounce, I have the ball - so all those eyes are on me and that's the best time to communicate what we have.

Interesting thread.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

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Also, I don't do anything after bouncing the ball to the shooter. Everyone's eyes naturally follow the ball, including the players on the lane, the table, the spectators, etc. So it feels pointless to make a signal when no one's watching; but before I bounce, I have the ball - so all those eyes are on me and that's the best time to communicate what we have.

Interesting thread.

I have game announcers who have announced the wrong number of shots correct themselves when I give the signal to the table. Also have had coaches notice my signal to the table.

Not all eyes are fixated on the shooter.