One and one signal

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.

Originally Posted by ballgame99

does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

[Sharpshooternes]

I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

If you're talking about the outside official (T in 2-person or C in 3-person), technically speaking, I believe, the first is an NCAAW signal, the other is the high school/NCAAM signal. To my knowledge, none of the three actually speak to whether or not to show and/or how to show to the table after the L backs out.

[Raymond]

Hook 'em Horns while torquing my wrist back and forth and loudly verbalizing 1 and 1. Each index finger high up in the air toward table once I get back to the endline.

Used to do the index fingers up while the ball bounces but some clinician I respected thought I should change it so I did.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table.

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Good point Bob. Thanks.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Same in our state.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.



Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

Wow, now I've got another thing to work on.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Sometimes, I say "let it hit," or "watch your toes" (in lower level games when I see a need), but not as often as I used to. Now that I think of it, I can't remember saying it this season in a game higher than middle school.

[bigwhistle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

I don't look at the table. I signal that way while I back out, making sure the thrower secures my bounced ball, and watching the other players.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Why do you look at the table? .... And what are you looking for anyway?

Glance at the table to check for subs??

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by refiator

Glance at the table to check for subs??

Isn't that the trail's job?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Isn't that the trail's job?

Why would the Lead not look at the table for subs? Aren't they the ones that administering the ball and need to know also if someone is eligible to come in the game? And considering the Trial's responsibility in 2 Person, they have their back to the table.

Peace