One and one signal

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

I've heard some partners say "let it hit." I don't use it.

On one-and-one, I do make a point of saying "one-and-one...ball is LIVE"

YMMV

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

"Play it off the rim"

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Holy heck, that's a pet peeve of mine.

Mine too. If you're going to say something, note the "if", you might as well say something that is correct.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers

Always listen to bob.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by fiasco

On one-and-one, I do make a point of saying "one-and-one...ball is LIVE"

Why? The ball is live during any free throw.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The ball is live during any free throw.

Good point. Really good point.

[bigwhistle]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Same in our state.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Why? The ball is live during any free throw.

Know your audience.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Why do you look at the table? Is it not your job to watch the players? The first time you miss the quick elbow to the gut or chops because you are looking at the table, you will find out that there is not a good answer for the coach. The table will not commit a foul. And what are you looking for anyway? The table does not have to approve how many shots are to be taken, and the calling official should have already communicated that number to the lead.

I don't look at the table. I signal that way while I back out, making sure the thrower secures my bounced ball, and watching the other players.

[McMac]

I check each position, making sure everyone is legally in, correct the toes if necessary, then just "1", "2", "3" or "1 and 1". As previously said, "More is not always better."

For "1 and 1" I am currently between two styles. I am trying to get into the one bounce "1 and 1" then bounce to shooter. I am trying to drop the hold ball and say "1 and 1" while holding it habit.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by tref

In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Try having the free throw shooter hold the camera.

[La Rikardo]

When administering a one and one, I quote 9-1-4 verbatim. None of this "hit the rim" nonsense. Too vague.

[onetime1]

So you just say 9 dash 1 dash 4.. And then bounce the ball?

[refiator]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers

And make eye contact with my partners to be SURE we are in one and one and that players are aware of the status. Simple things to avoid correctable error situations.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by tref

In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

1 - On tape is it possible to see the difference between an official signaling 1 or 2 throws with one hand? It seems as if most videos are filmed from the last row of the stands and are zoomed out so one can see about half of the court at one time so there would be no way to tell how many fingers the official is holding up.

2 - Miscommunications also occur when an official signals the correct number of throws yet says the wrong number. There is no way that will show up on the video tape.

It seems as if a lot of people on this forum are overly concerned with video tapes not being able to prove that they didn't make a mistake. If someone thinks you made a mistake then it is up to them to actually show the mistake. If you said and signaled the correct number of throws then you have nothing to worry about, the video will not disprove you. You don't need to worry that maybe your signal didn't show up on the video.