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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 11:56am
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you are full of crap. i was askig for advice, not a judgement.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 12:04pm
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you are full of crap. i was askig for advice, not a judgement.
Officials that dont wear lanyards should know how to handle a statement from a coach regarding their professionalism.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 02:41pm
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I am guessing you are from West Virginia.

In looking at the state website for officials it says something along the lines of

The WVSSAC subscribes to the uniform recommended by the National Federation of State High School Associations:

NOTE 1: Officials may only wear the patch adopted by the WVSSAC Officials’ Advisory Committee, and said patch must be worn on the left breast of the shirt. If the patch is worn on the jacket, it will be located on the left breast of the jacket and must be worn by all officials in the contest.
NOTE 2: In the sports of track, swim and volleyball, the patch can be embroidery as long as it’s placed on a white polo shirt and it must be done by Officials Call.
NOTE 3: Officials are not permitted to wear jewelry; however; officials may wear a wedding band or ring but it is not recommended.
NOTE 4: Shirt tails shall be tucked in at all times.
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2. BASKETBALL: Black and white striped shirt, short sleeve V-neck. Provided however, that if a tee shirt is worn under the V-neck and any part of it is visible that it will be black in color and that all officials will either wear tee shirts black in color or they will wear the V-neck shirt so that no undershirt is visible. Black trousers, black shoes with black laces, black socks and black belt are required. Black Jackets: not mandatory, but if worn, all officials must wear the same style and color. All officials in a given contest must be uniform in their dress.

And just for fun, I checked back with the NFHS uniform that is listed in the Officials Manual on pg 14, G. Whistle - black lanyard.....

There are associations (ask anyone from Washington) that have sanctioned officials for not wearing the prescribed uniform (specifically whistles). You have the information, you have been offered suggestions, the rest is up to you.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 03:48pm
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All officials in a given contest must be uniform in their dress.

And just for fun, I checked back with the NFHS uniform that is listed in the Officials Manual on pg 14, G. Whistle - black lanyard.....

There are associations (ask anyone from Washington) that have sanctioned officials for not wearing the prescribed uniform (specifically whistles). You have the information, you have been offered suggestions, the rest is up to you.
But if you want to get really technical about it, nothing says the whistle must be connected to the lanyard. So you could, theoretically, wear a lanyard hanging loose around your neck and still carry the whistle in your hand.

Not that I'm advocating this, of course... hard to imagine a look that would be more dorky then wearing a lanyard with nothing attached to it.

Personally, I use a lanyard, and I don't give a dang one way or the other if my partner wears a lanyard or not.

I can't say I've ever seen anyone I've worked with go sans-lanyard, but I've never bothered to look. If the Powers That Be (tm) care, then you should follow their direction.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 03:56pm
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I am guessing you are from West Virginia.

In looking at the state website for officials it says something along the lines of

The WVSSAC subscribes to the uniform recommended by the National Federation of State High School Associations:

NOTE 1: Officials may only wear the patch adopted by the WVSSAC Officials’ Advisory Committee, and said patch must be worn on the left breast of the shirt. If the patch is worn on the jacket, it will be located on the left breast of the jacket and must be worn by all officials in the contest.
NOTE 2: In the sports of track, swim and volleyball, the patch can be embroidery as long as it’s placed on a white polo shirt and it must be done by Officials Call.
NOTE 3: Officials are not permitted to wear jewelry; however; officials may wear a wedding band or ring but it is not recommended.
NOTE 4: Shirt tails shall be tucked in at all times.
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2. BASKETBALL: Black and white striped shirt, short sleeve V-neck. Provided however, that if a tee shirt is worn under the V-neck and any part of it is visible that it will be black in color and that all officials will either wear tee shirts black in color or they will wear the V-neck shirt so that no undershirt is visible. Black trousers, black shoes with black laces, black socks and black belt are required. Black Jackets: not mandatory, but if worn, all officials must wear the same style and color. All officials in a given contest must be uniform in their dress.

And just for fun, I checked back with the NFHS uniform that is listed in the Officials Manual on pg 14, G. Whistle - black lanyard.....

There are associations (ask anyone from Washington) that have sanctioned officials for not wearing the prescribed uniform (specifically whistles). You have the information, you have been offered suggestions, the rest is up to you.
It's the same message as black belts -- if you use a belt or lanyard, it must be black.

And just cause a partner wears a belt doesn't mean I will. I'm not thinking uniform means exactly that -- otherwise, we'd have to match brands of shirts, pants, and shoes, too.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 04:19pm
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It's the same message as black belts -- if you use a belt or lanyard, it must be black.

And just cause a partner wears a belt doesn't mean I will. I'm not thinking uniform means exactly that -- otherwise, we'd have to match brands of shirts, pants, and shoes, too.

Which makes think of strange bedfellows, a ref who wears a belt but not a lanyard.

I worked with a guy who for a few years didn't use a lanyard, we gave him plenty of good natured grief about it. He went back to lanyard, never asked him why.

I'm still waiting for why someone would do this other than to big time it.
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I haven't paid enough attention to see even the "big timers" doing this.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 08:30pm
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It's the same message as black belts.
You just had to bring up belts.

I'll give you my black belt when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 01:19pm
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... 2. BASKETBALL: Black trousers, black shoes with black laces, black socks and black belt are required.[/COLOR].

WOW ... they are required to wear belts?!?!?
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you are full of crap. i was askig for advice, not a judgement.
A) My non-judgmental advise: it looks dorky, so use a lanyard.

B) I know I'm full of crap. It still looks dorky.
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A) My non-judgmental advise: it looks dorky, so use a lanyard.

B) I know I'm full of crap. It still looks dorky.
This is wrong on so many levels.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 10:46pm
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I've never gone without a lanyard, and I have no plans to try it. IMO, we have enough to worry about on the floor, and where my whistle is when it's not in my mouth shouldn't be one of them!

As far as the lanyard hitting me in the face...when I call a foul and jog to the reporting area, I hold on to the whistle so it doesn't move. When it's just hanging off my shirt, it hits me probably at the bottom of my rib cage.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 01:26am
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This is wrong on so many levels.
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Now you've gone and done it........
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 07:23am
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What's wrong with Freddy's interpretation? Citation, please?
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