I Was Embarrassed Last Night

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If I hear "rebound, timeout", they're probably getting a timeout. If I hear, "if we get a rebound, timeout", not.

I'm not sure what the distinction is between these two scenarios. Can you clarify your reasoning?

I've had coaches give me the "I want a timeout if we get the rebound" when I'm trail on a FT attempt, and I've granted them the timeout if, in fact, they get the rebound. Why wouldn't/shouldn't I?


I did have one coach get mad at me for not granting him a timeout when I was trail near his bench and he was behind me yelling "Thirty.... Thirty..... Thirty". As I explained to him later: "Coach, I thought you were giving your team a play call. If you want a timeout, say 'timeout'".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I'm not sure what the distinction is between these two scenarios. Can you clarify your reasoning?

I've had coaches give me the "I want a timeout if we get the rebound" when I'm trail on a FT attempt, and I've granted them the timeout if, in fact, they get the rebound. Why wouldn't/shouldn't I?


I did have one coach get mad at me for not granting him a timeout when I was trail near his bench and he was behind me yelling "Thirty.... Thirty..... Thirty". As I explained to him later: "Coach, I thought you were giving your team a play call. If you want a timeout, say 'timeout'".

Chances are, I'd know what he meant, but there's no guarantee. Coaches shouldn't assume we'll know what they mean when they're leaving significant words unspoken.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Chances are, I'd know what he meant, but there's no guarantee. Coaches shouldn't assume we'll know what they mean when they're leaving significant words unspoken.

In the OP, it seems that the Coach was telling his players what to do, not talking to the officials at all...

Also, to stiffler3492 - why would this embarrass you? I get the fact that your partner screwed up, but I don't know anyone who has ever called a perfect game. Mistakes happen - deal with it and move on. If I am the one that screws up, I am embarrassed, but if it's my partner? That doesn't embarrass me at all. We will all learn from it together.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

In the OP, it seems that the Coach was telling his players what to do, not talking to the officials at all...

Also, to stiffler3492 - why would this embarrass you? I get the fact that your partner screwed up, but I don't know anyone who has ever called a perfect game. Mistakes happen - deal with it and move on. If I am the one that screws up, I am embarrassed, but if it's my partner? That doesn't embarrass me at all. We will all learn from it together.

I agree, and most of us would have known. However, if, for whatever reason (loud gym), I didn't hear the "rebound" part (our ears are more tuned to hear "timeout" than "rebound" from a coach), I'd be inclined to grant the TO right away.

[Smitty]

I could be mistaken, but I believe the embarrassing part was that it was Team B's coach who was saying "Rebound. Timeout" and Team A was shooting. And the timeout was granted. Could have resulted in a cluster had the game gone a different way because of the partner's f-up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I could be mistaken, but I believe the embarrassing part was that it was Team B's coach who was saying "Rebound. Timeout" and Team A was shooting. And the timeout was granted. Could have resulted in a cluster had the game gone a different way because of the partner's f-up.

I was assuming the "request" was made prior to the shooter getting the ball.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I was assuming the "request" was made prior to the shooter getting the ball.

Re-reading the OP - you could be right. I'm just gonna shut up now.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I could be mistaken, but I believe the embarrassing part was that it was Team B's coach who was saying "Rebound. Timeout" and Team A was shooting. And the timeout was granted. Could have resulted in a cluster had the game gone a different way because of the partner's f-up.

In the OP, he said the "request" was made before the shooter had the ball so the fact that team B got the timeout with A shooting is not an issue...A was not shooting yet. The whistle was late, but it wan't an improper time for the request to be granted.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

In the OP, he said the "request" was made before the shooter had the ball so the fact that team B got the timeout with A shooting is not an issue...A was not shooting yet. The whistle was late, but it wan't an improper time for the request to be granted.

OK not shutting up just yet. If that's the case, and it certainly is written that way, then this whole thread is rather pointless.

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

In the OP, he said the "request" was made before the shooter had the ball so the fact that team B got the timeout with A shooting is not an issue...A was not shooting yet. The whistle was late, but it wan't an improper time for the request to be granted.

That was a really late whistle (T hears the word Timeout - shooter receives ball - shooter takes typical 2 to 9.9 seconds and shoots the ball - T blows whistle) or some really quick thinking on the part of the T.

[tref]

When I'm asked for timeouts in advance, I just ask them to give a visual once they have control.