ROP, twice in one game

[bainsey]

Last week, competitve MS girls.

Start of the second quarter, V's ball, my partner is the R. The second warning horn sounds, and both teams are still huddling. My partner looks at me, I nod, and he sets the ball down and starts counting.

Team V doesn't have a clue, but Team H comes out of the huddle, sees the ball, and high-tails it to the opposite side to pick it up. Tweet, DOG warning, and V has been bailed out.

Cut to the third quarter, 30-second time-out, V's ball, opposite sideline. H is on the floor in time, but V is still huddling at the second buzzer. This time, I perform the ROP, but this time, the right time sprints to beat the five-second count.

The humorous part was a loudmouth in the second row who didn't like the ROP one bit. (Tweet, red ball) "Give them a warning, give them a warning." (Ball set.) That's crap! That's CRAP!" I wonder how he and his team missed both warning horns, both times.

[tref]

Not that its a biggie, but did you tell the coaches in pregame that we expect them to be ready to play on the 2nd horn?

Did your partner tell the home to leave the ball alone before they got to it OOB?

[Raymond]

1) Team V should have a clue. Get over to the huddle and loudly announce "2nd horn, ball's being put in play".

2) Anytime the ball is put down for a RPP, the administering official should loudly announce "White ball" or whatever color should be getting the ball.

JMHO based on listening to some old-timers.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

2) Anytime the ball is put down for a RPP, the administering official should loudly announce "White ball" or whatever color should be getting the ball.

We should also sound the whistle prior to beginning the ROP.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

1) Team V should have a clue. Get over to the huddle and loudly announce "2nd horn, ball's being put in play".

2) Anytime the ball is put down for a RPP, the administering official should loudly announce "White ball" or whatever color should be getting the ball.

JMHO based on listening to some old-timers.

#3...and sound the whistle extra long (maybe a tweet-tweeeeeeeeet ) and loud before doing so.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tref

We should also sound the whistle prior to beginning the ROP.

Was just going to ask if the administering official sounded his/her whistle before putting the ball on the floor and starting a count...that's part of the RPP.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

#3...and sound the whistle extra long (maybe a tweet-tweeeeeeeeet ) and loud before doing so.

Forgot to mention that part also.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by tref

Not that its a biggie, but did you tell the coaches in pregame that we expect them to be ready to play on the 2nd horn?

This is part of my pregame talk with the coaches:

"Remember, the first horn ends the timeout, and we're going to put the ball in play immediately after the second horn."

Then, when the coach protests after I use ROP, I can simply say "we talked about in pregame coach, remember?"

[tref]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

This is part of my pregame talk with the coaches:

"Remember, the first horn ends the timeout, and we're going to put the ball in play immediately after the second horn."

Then, when the coach protests after I use ROP, I can simply say "we talked about in pregame coach, remember?"

+1

They cannot claim anything is "unfair" when we lay it out for them & then follow through.
"Coach, you do remember our pregame conversation?"

[tophat67]

Shouldn't the opposing team touching the ball out of bounds be a technical foul?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tophat67

Shouldn't the opposing team touching the ball out of bounds be a technical foul?

No, because the ball is not in possession of the thrower nor being passed to a teammate outside of the boundary line. So it would just be a DOG for crossing the throw-in boundary-line plane.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

This is part of my pregame talk with the coaches:

"Remember, the first horn ends the timeout, and we're going to put the ball in play immediately after the second horn."

Then, when the coach protests after I use ROP, I can simply say "we talked about in pregame coach, remember?"

Again - please correct that to say "and we're going to sound the whistle immediately after the second horn and then put the ball in play."

The first horn is a warning that the timeout is about to end - it does not end the timeout. They still have 15 seconds...

[just another ref]

The pre-game conference is not for explaining individual rules, including this one.

jmo

[tref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The pre-game conference is not for explaining individual rules, including this one.

jmo

I dont think us saying, "have them ready to play on the 2nd horn" is explaining anything.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The first horn is a warning that the timeout is about to end - it does not end the timeout. They still have 15 seconds...

Agreed. They are entitled to their full time.