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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 05:26pm
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Delay of Game Situation / Ruling

Assistant Coach comes out during a timeout and warns us they are going to delay the game if the shot is made score is Team A 67 - Team B 61. 3 point shot is made and team B player throws the ball about 12 - 14 rows up near the bleachers in a corner out of bounds. Team B was given a Technical for this act instead of the Delay of game warning. Technical Foul for this act or Delay of Game warning ?
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10.1.5 SITUATION D: Immediately following a goal by A1, A3 slaps the ball
away so that Team B is unable to make a quick throw-in. RULING: The official
shall sound his/her whistle and go to the table to have the scorer record a team
warning for delay. The warning shall then be reported to the head coach of Team
A. Any subsequent delay by Team A shall result in a team technical foul charged
to Team A. (4-47-3)

9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through
the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been
warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a
technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded
and reported to the head coach. COMMENT: In situations with the clock running
and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-
47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 07:39pm
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Assistant Coach comes out during a timeout and warns us they are going to delay the game if the shot is made score is Team A 67 - Team B 61. 3 point shot is made and team B player throws the ball about 12 - 14 rows up near the bleachers in a corner out of bounds. Team B was given a Technical for this act instead of the Delay of game warning. Technical Foul for this act or Delay of Game warning ?
Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T
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Assistant Coach comes out during a timeout and warns us they are going to delay the game if the shot is made...snip.
What was your response to this? This is a good time to warn them it will almost assuredly result in a technical foul.
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Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T
See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)
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See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)
I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T
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I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T
Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:36pm
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Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.
I agree 100%.
In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.
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I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?
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I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?
Ejection? Really?!
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What could be gained by doing this on purpose???
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What could be gained by doing this on purpose???
Stop the clock from running after a made basket.
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Ejection? Really?!
And on the HC???? I've got nothing on the HC, not even basic T.
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And on the HC???? I've got nothing on the HC, not even basic T.
I agree. Assess the technical against the offending player and move on.
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