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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 07:39pm
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Assistant Coach comes out during a timeout and warns us they are going to delay the game if the shot is made score is Team A 67 - Team B 61. 3 point shot is made and team B player throws the ball about 12 - 14 rows up near the bleachers in a corner out of bounds. Team B was given a Technical for this act instead of the Delay of game warning. Technical Foul for this act or Delay of Game warning ?
Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:12pm
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Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T
See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:20pm
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See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)
I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:29pm
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I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T
Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:36pm
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Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.
I agree 100%.
In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:47pm
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I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:49pm
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I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?
Ejection? Really?!
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:47pm
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I agree 100%.
In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.
I was too focussed on "12-14 rows" to notice the grammar error.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:27pm
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In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.
What's the difference?
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Old Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:08am
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What's the difference?
B gets ball under the basket and throws it off to the side of the court and it bumps the bottom row of bleachers. I believe that to be about the distance of 12-14 rows up near the bleachers.

The moral of the story is the OP was written poorly and therefore know one really knows how and where the ball was thrown.
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Old Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:51pm
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i envision b scoring and then grabbing the ball, before a ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of a's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a t
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See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post.
And see 10.1.5.D as well. I posted both of them because I can't figure out which one to use here.

This is what is confusing me:

In situations with the clock runningn and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal
should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic.


Doesn't this "tactic" always "interfere with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in"?
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And see 10.1.5.D as well. I posted both of them because I can't figure out which one to use here.

This is what is confusing me:

In situations with the clock runningn and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal
should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic.


Doesn't this "tactic" always "interfere with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in"?
Not if the thrower isn't making such an effort.
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