Delay of Game Situation / Ruling

[Triad zebra]

Originally Posted by Ref24

Assistant Coach comes out during a timeout and warns us they are going to delay the game if the shot is made score is Team A 67 - Team B 61. 3 point shot is made and team B player throws the ball about 12 - 14 rows up near the bleachers in a corner out of bounds. Team B was given a Technical for this act instead of the Delay of game warning. Technical Foul for this act or Delay of Game warning ?

Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

Maybe I missed something.....I got a warning on team B. I don't believe there is enough info here to give a T

See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)

[Triad zebra]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post. (I don't think most HS officials are aware of this case play.)

I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

I envision B scoring and then grabbing the ball, before A ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of A's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a T

Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.

[Triad zebra]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Throwing the ball 12-14 rows into the stands fits 10-3-5-a perfectly. An act this egregious should not simply result in a delay of game warning, especially when that is the intent of the offending team and they would be gaining an advantage by doing so.

I agree 100%.
In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.

[jkumpire]

I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?

[APG]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

I'd consider an ejection for USC on the part of the HC in this case as well. This is very close to flagrant behavior to me.



I'm sure that's a minority of one opinion, but I think if this happened as the poster said it did, how can you not at least think about it?

Ejection? Really?!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

I agree 100%.
In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.

I was too focussed on "12-14 rows" to notice the grammar error.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Triad zebra

In my head, due to the wording "12-14 rows up near the bleachers" B just through the ball away, not into the bleachers.

What's the difference?

[Triad zebra]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

What's the difference?

B gets ball under the basket and throws it off to the side of the court and it bumps the bottom row of bleachers. I believe that to be about the distance of 12-14 rows up near the bleachers.

The moral of the story is the OP was written poorly and therefore know one really knows how and where the ball was thrown.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by triad zebra

i envision b scoring and then grabbing the ball, before a ever touches it, and throwing it away.
B did not knock it out of a's hand and this may have been in the 3rd quarter.
I still contend there is not enough info for a t

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

See 9.2.10.A that Billy cited above your post.

And see 10.1.5.D as well. I posted both of them because I can't figure out which one to use here.

This is what is confusing me:

In situations with the clock runningn and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic.

Doesn't this "tactic" always "interfere with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And see 10.1.5.D as well. I posted both of them because I can't figure out which one to use here.

This is what is confusing me:

In situations with the clock runningn and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic.

Doesn't this "tactic" always "interfere with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in"?

Not if the thrower isn't making such an effort.