Thoughts?

[HawkeyeCubP]

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

[APG]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

IMO, I agree that the C/slot should be patient on this play.

The lead should have the first crack on this play. I too have a charge on this play though I can see why the slot/center had a block on the play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

I disagree a little bit. Transition is where you do not have primary coverage areas and you have to help. Not sure about who has the first crack at it, but the C would see this play clearly. The contact took place at the top of the lane and the could easily have a great open look. Both officials should be aware that any call might bring more than one whistle to this situation. Both should hold up until they are sure they are the only one with the whistle or they have communicated who takes it.

Peace

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I disagree a little bit. Transition is where you do not have primary coverage areas and you have to help. Not sure about who has the first crack at it, but the C would see this play clearly. The contact took place at the top of the lane and the could easily have a great open look. Both officials should be aware that any call might bring more than one whistle to this situation. Both should hold up until they are sure they are the only one with the whistle or they have communicated who takes it.

Peace

I totally agree with your comments about transition and PCA's and active alert C's in plays like this. But I don't think the C has the open look here you're suggesting they might that would empower him to jump on this so quickly. C is screened from the defender setting up by white 25(?), and is screened from the dribbler getting there by red 44 and white 32.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I totally agree with your comments about transition and PCA's and active alert C's in plays like this. But I don't think the C has the open look here you're suggesting they might that would empower him to jump on this so quickly. C is screened from the defender setting up by white 25(?), and is screened from the dribbler getting there by red 44 and white 32.

I did not say he definitely had an open look, but he is likely in transition if he keeps up with the play can see if the defender comes forward better than most Ls can in this situation. We do not have his angle of this play to so say he was screened is a little much of a guess. I know the C often is looking at this play and anticipating some kind of contact if they understand their mechanics. And without talking to them I have no idea why they called a foul.

Peace

[deecee]

charge. don't see what the discussion was about except maybe bruised egos.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

charge. don't see what the discussion was about except maybe bruised egos.

You have to have a bruised ego to discuss a double whistle?

Peace

[BktBallRef]

I don't see how you can call that anything but a PC foul.

There's a discussion because one called a block and one called a charge. No double foul in this sitch in the NBA.

BTW, I bought NBA League Pass this year.