Thoughts?

[APG]

Thoughts?



I know a lot of you people like to act as if the NBA is something completely foreign to what you call...so if you think that, assume this is a call in a game you would call.

And if you're wondering, this play was a blarge play...the slot/center had a block and since it didn't include the RA/LDB, they jumped it at half court between any player in the game at the time.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Thoughts?

I know a lot of you people like to act as if the NBA is something completely foreign to what you call...

That's because it is :-P

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

so if you think that, assume this is a call in a game you would call.

And if you're wondering, this play was a blarge play...the slot/center had a block and since it didn't include the RA/LDB, they jumped it at half court between any player in the game at the time.

Charge.

[zm1283]

PC all the way.

The C came quite a distance to get a block there.

[Camron Rust]

Charge. Not even close.

[APG]

Originally Posted by zm1283

PC all the way.

The C came quite a distance to get a block there.

I don't think the slot was that far from the play...it might appear that way because the camera wasn't panned out as far as it would be if it was a halfcourt set.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Thoughts?



I know a lot of you people like to act as if the NBA is something completely foreign to what you call...so if you think that, assume this is a call in a game you would call.

And if you're wondering, this play was a blarge play...the slot/center had a block and since it didn't include the RA/LDB, they jumped it at half court between any player in the game at the time.

Now that's a foul even I can see! Charge!!

[APG]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Now that's a foul even I can see! Charge!!

Haha...I'm glad you got your vision cleared up this time.

[JRutledge]

What did the defender do wrong? That is a charge all the way.

Peace

[HawkeyeCubP]

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

[APG]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

IMO, I agree that the C/slot should be patient on this play.

The lead should have the first crack on this play. I too have a charge on this play though I can see why the slot/center had a block on the play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

By HS or NCAA mechanics, I don't think the C has any business having a first crack at this play. It's on the L's side, and the defender that takes the contact is the first person the L would likely have picked up in transition. If anything, I think, if the C wants to put a whistle on it, it should've been slow-to-show, as with most potential double whistles with L's.

I disagree a little bit. Transition is where you do not have primary coverage areas and you have to help. Not sure about who has the first crack at it, but the C would see this play clearly. The contact took place at the top of the lane and the could easily have a great open look. Both officials should be aware that any call might bring more than one whistle to this situation. Both should hold up until they are sure they are the only one with the whistle or they have communicated who takes it.

Peace

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I disagree a little bit. Transition is where you do not have primary coverage areas and you have to help. Not sure about who has the first crack at it, but the C would see this play clearly. The contact took place at the top of the lane and the could easily have a great open look. Both officials should be aware that any call might bring more than one whistle to this situation. Both should hold up until they are sure they are the only one with the whistle or they have communicated who takes it.

Peace

I totally agree with your comments about transition and PCA's and active alert C's in plays like this. But I don't think the C has the open look here you're suggesting they might that would empower him to jump on this so quickly. C is screened from the defender setting up by white 25(?), and is screened from the dribbler getting there by red 44 and white 32.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I totally agree with your comments about transition and PCA's and active alert C's in plays like this. But I don't think the C has the open look here you're suggesting they might that would empower him to jump on this so quickly. C is screened from the defender setting up by white 25(?), and is screened from the dribbler getting there by red 44 and white 32.

I did not say he definitely had an open look, but he is likely in transition if he keeps up with the play can see if the defender comes forward better than most Ls can in this situation. We do not have his angle of this play to so say he was screened is a little much of a guess. I know the C often is looking at this play and anticipating some kind of contact if they understand their mechanics. And without talking to them I have no idea why they called a foul.

Peace

[deecee]

charge. don't see what the discussion was about except maybe bruised egos.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

charge. don't see what the discussion was about except maybe bruised egos.

You have to have a bruised ego to discuss a double whistle?

Peace