Dunk in pregame

[constable]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

If the kid is a member of the varsity team and is out there warming up then he is affiliated with the jv team and is therefore bench personnel. If he is in the team warmups the same as the other players, then he is a team member. So if he dunks, call the T.

I disagree.

Per 10-3-3 dunking a dead ball is a PLAYER technical. Who are you gonna charge the foul too?

[JugglingReferee]

What is the call if a player allow himself to be used as a step for this teammate to dunk? Yes, it's during the game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What is the call if a player allow himself to be used as a step for this teammate to dunk? Yes, it's during the game.

Just let me whip out my old rule book (I watched Blazing Saddles on AMC last week).

10-3-6-E: A player shall not: Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height.

Now, who is charged with the technical foul, the climber, or the climbee, or both?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by constable

I disagree. Per 10-3-3 dunking a dead ball is a PLAYER technical. Who are you gonna charge the foul too?

Charge the technical foul and then, if it's after the ten minute limit, charge a second technical foul for adding his name to the team roster? Man, that will get the game off to a good start.

For the simple reason of this "double jeopardy" overkill, I'm not charging a technical foul for pregame dunking if a person, not listed as a team member on the team roster for that specific game, dunks the ball. Just my opinion.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Charge the technical foul and then, if it's after the ten minute limit, charge a second technical foul for adding his name to the team roster? Man, that will get the game off to a good start.

For the simple reason of this "double jeopardy" overkill, I'm not charging a technical foul for pregame dunking if a person, not listed as a player on the team roster for that specific game, dunks the ball. Just my opinion.

I agree with your approach. But it brings to mind a slightly different OP. During warmups, a uniformed person dunks the ball. When you go to T him up, you realize that the coach did not write his number on the roster. The coach claims a) he wasn't going to let him play due to grades but he was going to let him warm up b) he is a team player, but since he forgot to list him if he just doesn't play him can he avoid two technical foul c) he is not a team player and he doesn't know how he got a uniform.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by youngump

The coach did not write his number on the roster. The coach claims a) he wasn't going to let him play due to grades but he was going to let him warm up b) he is a team player, but since he forgot to list him if he just doesn't play him can he avoid two technical foul.

If person can't warm up wearing jewelry, then I'm not going to let a person, who is not listed on the roster, warm up either. If he wants to add him to the book, fine, two technicals, one for dunking, and one for the book change. If he doesn't want to add him to the book, that's fine too, but he's not going to be warming up with the team members who are actually on the roster.

Citations: Common sense. 2-3. Purpose and intent. No such shenanigans in my game.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If person can't warm up wearing jewelry, then I'm not going to let a person, who is not listed on the roster, warm up either. If he wants to add him to the book, fine, two technicals, one for dunking, and one for the book change. If he doesn't want to add him to the book, that's fine too, but he's not going to be warming up with the team members who are actually on the roster.

Citations: Common sense. 2-3. Purpose and intent. No such shenanigans in my game.

Until the 10 minute mark, how do you know who is on the roster? Or do you not let a team warm up until they've submitted their rosters?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Until the 10 minute mark, how do you know who is on the roster? Or do you not let a team warm up until they've submitted their rosters?

Me: "Coach. I've got a technical foul charged to White 33 for dunking during the pregame warmup period so we'll be starting the game with some free throws for Red".

Coach: "33? He's not even on the varsity team. He's a junior varsity player. He doesn't even belong out there. His name won't be in the book".

Me: "OK coach. No technical foul. Now will you please get him off the court?"

Coach: "No problem Mr. BillyMac. And, by the way, some hot, single, Moms have told me that you look particularly handsome tonight, and they've asked me to get your phone number for them".

Me; "Just tell all of them to wait outside the locker room after the game. I'll pick the hottest one to buy me dinner tonight. Any good steak restaurants around here?"

Yep. That's the way it would go in my game.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Me: "Coach. I've got a technical foul charged to White 33 for dunking during the pregame warmup period so we'll be starting the game with some free throws for Red".

Coach: "33? He's not even on the varsity team. He's a junior varsity player. He doesn't even belong out there. His name won't be in the book".

Me: "OK coach. No technical foul. Now will you please get him off the court?"

Coach: "No problem Mr. Billy Mac. And, by the way, some hot, single, Moms have told me that you look particularly handsome tonight, and they've asked me to get your phone number for them".

Me; "Just tell all of them to wait outside the locker to after the game. I'll pick the hottest one to buy me dinner tonight".

Yep. That's the way it would go in my game.

Do you normally believe the coach when he says his player didn't do it?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by youngump

He is not a team player and he doesn't know how he got a uniform.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Go directly to the site director. That's why they get paid the big bucks.

[Shane O]

Originally Posted by constable

I disagree.

Per 10-3-3 dunking a dead ball is a PLAYER technical. Who are you gonna charge the foul too?

Couldn't you use 10-4-1i to give a T as bench personnel?

"Grasping either basket except to prevent injury; dunking or stuffing, or attempting to dunk or stuff a dead ball."