Ball Stuck

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I might do so in practice but it is several feet from the flange/rim and it isn't wedged anywhere.

Camron:

While watching Sports Center this morning I decided to read the NFHS Basketball Rules Book (read the rules book, what a concept, I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier, ) and have come to the conclusion that we just might not have a Throw-in Violation.


To all of those reading this post, I am using the NFHS Rules but the NCAA Rules are the same except that the Sections are Article might be diffderent with the exception of R2-S3 which is the same Rule and Section in both Rules Sets.

NFHS R6-S7-A3 states: "The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when a held ball occurs, or the ball lodges between the backboard and ring or comes to rest on the flange."

NFHS R6-S7-A5 states: "An official’s whistle is blown (see exceptions a and b below)." ..... "EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when:
a. Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.
b. Article 5 or 7 occurs while a try for a free throw is in flight."

NFHS R4-S42-A5 states: "The throw-in ends when:
a. The passed ball touches or is legally touched by another player inbounds.
b. The passed ball touches or is touched by another player out of bounds,
except as in 7-5-7.
c. The throw-in team commits a throw-in violation."

NFHS R7-S2-A2 states: "The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched." ..... "PENALTY: (Section 2) The ball becomes dead when the violation or technical foul occurs. Following a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the original throw-in spot."

By rule, the ball is still Live and Team A has Team Control of the ball. One of the Game Officials can make the ball Dead by sounding his whistle. That mean's Team A's original Throw-in never ended and Team A should get the ball for a Throw-in. But that creates more problems. Normally the new Throw-in spot should be nearest the spot of the ball when it became Dead, but what if the original Throw-in was (a) an Alternating Possesion Throw-in or (b) a TF penalty. Where would the ensueing Throw-in be and in the case of (a) would this be a continuation of Team A's AP Throw-in or would Team A retain the PA for the next AP Situation?

All very good questions for discussion. Two observations: (1) There is something to be said for returning to the old rule where the throw-in had to be touched by a player on or off the court within five seconds of the start of the throw-in, meaning we ould have had a Throw-in violation by Team A; (2) go back to Jump Balls instead of AP Throw-ins, .

Which brings us back to NFHS R2-S3, and whether we can use it to solve our conondrum.

Enjoy the NFL Playoffs everybody, .

MTD, Sr.