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When calculating the two endpoints along the end line where a shot could be legal, one matches the endpoint closest to the corner with the ball hitting the flange, and the endpoint furthest from the corner with the ball hitting the front of the rim.

My math shows that the endpoint furthest from the corner is about 165" from the corner. This is 13' 9" from the corner, or 11' 3" from the midpoint of the end line. This is 15" further from the corner than the midpoint of the top/bottom half of the end line. It is also 8' 3" outside the edge of the backboard. It is also 5' 3" outside the key.

Does any of that change your opinion of the shot?
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When calculating the two endpoints along the end line where a shot could be legal, one matches the endpoint closest to the corner with the ball hitting the flange, and the endpoint furthest from the corner with the ball hitting the front of the rim.

My math shows that the endpoint furthest from the corner is about 165" from the corner. This is 13' 9" from the corner, or 11' 3" from the midpoint of the end line. This is 15" further from the corner than the midpoint of the top/bottom half of the end line. It is also 8' 3" outside the edge of the backboard. It is also 5' 3" outside the key.

Does any of that change your opinion of the shot?
I have two math degrees and I have no clue WTF you're talking about.
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When calculating the two endpoints along the end line where a shot could be legal, one matches the endpoint closest to the corner with the ball hitting the flange, and the endpoint furthest from the corner with the ball hitting the front of the rim.

My math shows that the endpoint furthest from the corner is about 165" from the corner. This is 13' 9" from the corner, or 11' 3" from the midpoint of the end line. This is 15" further from the corner than the midpoint of the top/bottom half of the end line. It is also 8' 3" outside the edge of the backboard. It is also 5' 3" outside the key.

Does any of that change your opinion of the shot?
My head hurts, but I think i understand, and agree that - geometrically speaking - the ball broke the plane. But unless the C pulled out his slide rule, this would be too close to call. The more I think about it, this would be more convincing from the Lead (ala the official in the Larry Bird shot).
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When calculating the two endpoints along the end line where a shot could be legal, one matches the endpoint closest to the corner with the ball hitting the flange, and the endpoint furthest from the corner with the ball hitting the front of the rim.

My math shows that the endpoint furthest from the corner is about 165" from the corner. This is 13' 9" from the corner, or 11' 3" from the midpoint of the end line. This is 15" further from the corner than the midpoint of the top/bottom half of the end line. It is also 8' 3" outside the edge of the backboard. It is also 5' 3" outside the key.

Does any of that change your opinion of the shot?
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My head hurts, but I think i understand, and agree that - geometrically speaking - the ball broke the plane. But unless the C pulled out his slide rule, this would be too close to call. The more I think about it, this would be more convincing from the Lead (ala the official in the Larry Bird shot).
Here is an image I created a few years ago when discussing the same topic...



I searched for the old post where I commented on it but have not yet found it...

...FOUND IT: Pass Goes Behind the Backboard, Through the Supports
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Old Tue Jan 10, 2012, 05:18pm
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My math shows that the endpoint furthest from the corner is about 165" from the corner. This is 13' 9" from the corner, or 11' 3" from the midpoint of the end line. This is 15" further from the corner than the midpoint of the top/bottom half of the end line. It is also 8' 3" outside the edge of the backboard. It is also 5' 3" outside the key.
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Here is an image I created a few years ago when discussing the same topic...
I can tell that you guys know your way around a slide rule. Now, do either of you wear a pocket protector?
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My numbers were quite similar to those.

I did do some rounding, which is why I italicized "about".

My main calculation was based upon the middle of the ball hitting the front of the rim. In your example, it looks like you used the two edges of the ball.

I'm going to save your graphic rather than draw my own.
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You have to allow for the wind.
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Well, they did play on that aircraft carrier a few weeks ago.
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