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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 08:31pm
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dangerous situation and the adults involved failed the red team miserably.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 08:51pm
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On first viewing, I had #2 and #6 as common fouls, #5 as flagrant, and the rest intentional.

I would've been looking quite closely at 34 and 42 and they wouldn't have played a lot of minutes -- either after getting ejected or picking up a few quick fouls.

No real urgency with the officials -- on hard fouls like that you'd expect at least 2 of the officials to close distance quickly to make sure things don't escalate. But here, nothing.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 08:51pm
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I'm sorry, but if they are in chronological order and after I saw #1, #3 becomes flagrant and #34 is gone.

Oblivious? After #5, the one everyone agrees is the only flagrant foul, the C comes in for a chat with #34. Looked like a pleasant conversation with possibly a little pat on the fanny.

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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 08:57pm
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This is an awful display of officiating. Absolutely, completely disgraceful.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:05pm
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A Constructive Take-Away from This Post

For anyone who might have missed it, a poster gave a terrifically helpful link to the Georgia State Association's 2011 training video on the topic of "Fighting". Included is the advice mentioned above that things like this don't just happen all of a sudden, that there are identifiable precursors we should be alert for to keep stuff like this from happening.
This is a great resource for any association meeting.
Link: http://http://www.ghsa.net/basketball. Scroll down to 2011 Training Video.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:07pm
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In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.

What the video shows is not the standard of play for Connell High.

Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to speak with both the Principal & AD about the video & the potential threats made in the comments on Wednesday.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:18pm
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In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.
The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.

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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 09:35pm
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The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.

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The AD can however remove unruly fans for unsportsmanlike conduct. He can also make the request to the Boys' coach that the player be removed from the game or face some sort of penalty.
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The GHSA video linked on post #18 is very good!
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He can also make the request to the Boys' coach that the player be removed from the game or face some sort of penalty.
OK, I just have to ask. What sort of penalty are you thinking the AD can impose upon the coach of another school? Can he turn off the hot water in the vistors' showers?
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 11:19pm
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The AD can however remove unruly fans for unsportsmanlike conduct. He can also make the request to the Boys' coach that the player be removed from the game or face some sort of penalty.
He can make any request off the court he likes. He cannot do that in the middle of the game or in a way that disrupts the game.

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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 11:01pm
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The AD has no role to do anything, at least not say anything to the players or the officials. That is not the ADs job to say during the game.
Disagree.

The AD is the director of athletics at the school. He oversees all of the goings on involving athletics at the school. It's a home game. He absolutely has the power to step out on the court and yank those pieces of garbage off the floor, send them to the locker room and tell them they won't play another game in a CHS uniform.

But, he didn't.
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Old Mon Jan 02, 2012, 11:26pm
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Disagree.

The AD is the director of athletics at the school. He oversees all of the goings on involving athletics at the school. It's a home game. He absolutely has the power to step out on the court and yank those pieces of garbage off the floor, send them to the locker room and tell them they won't play another game in a CHS uniform.

But, he didn't.
You want an administrator (who it is possible you do not know is an administrator) coming onto the court and escalate the situation by pulling someone off the court? Good luck with that.

They can have any conversation off the court they want. They have a job to do to run the oversee, but during the game they do not have to right or the authority to get involved during the contest. If the AD does such a thing, there might be others that feel they are responsible for those kinds of things and get involved. When we are hired to work the game, there are protocols and this would be inappropriate for them to go onto the court for something they do not control.

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In a couple of clips, you'll see the AD in the corner (purple with white stripes polo). He just stands there & does nothing even when the Highland fans start spouting off unsporting comments towards #34 & the officials.

What the video shows is not the standard of play for Connell High.

Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to speak with both the Principal & AD about the video & the potential threats made in the comments on Wednesday.
Don't know about the principal, but the AD was there. What do you intend to tell him?
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Don't know about the principal, but the AD was there. What do you intend to tell him?
Just show him the video. It speaks for itself.
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