Uncalled Cheap Shots

[tomegun]

On any given night you can find ten that want to play (right). I only saw one that was flagrant, several were intentional and I would have systematically (5 fouls) far before things got out of hand.

[JRutledge]

I only saw one flagrant foul as well and a couple that would have been intentional at best. The last play would have been nothing more than just a foul. Now that being said, you have to have game awareness. This kid is really not trying to play basketball. I would look to call any little contact with him a foul and get him out of the game if I did not get him for a flagrant earlier. The officials acted totally oblivious to what was going on in this game. I am amazed by their total lack of awareness.

Peace

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The officials acted totally oblivious to what was going on in this game. I am amazed by their total lack of awareness.

Peace

This is common in my association and I'm not sure our group of officials are alone in this. Game awareness is so important from the time we take the court until we leave the court.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This is common in my association and I'm not sure our group of officials are alone in this. Game awareness is so important from the time we take the court until we leave the court.

I remember this past summer when I was at a camp and we had a few fights as I was watching the games during one day. The thing I kept preaching was these things do not just happen. There usually are multiple signs and you must notice them or fights will happen. I think many are so concerned with other things like getting the number and calling the foul, they are not worried about what other actions they see.

Peace

[grunewar]

unless of course they are in a position of authority over you and they remove you from a position........ then, feel free.

[fullor30]

What kind of coach would condone this repeated thuggery by white team?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by grunewar

unless of course they are in a position of authority over you and they remove you from a position........ then, feel free.

Actually right now, I'm in communication with both the Principal & AD about being allowed to work both gyms equally. I am not being biased at all, even though CHS is my Alma Mater. I ignore the fact that I am an alumni when working CHS games & treat each team equally.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I only saw one flagrant foul as well and a couple that would have been intentional at best. The last play would have been nothing more than just a foul. Now that being said, you have to have game awareness. This kid is really not trying to play basketball. I would look to call any little contact with him a foul and get him out of the game if I did not get him for a flagrant earlier. The officials acted totally oblivious to what was going on in this game. I am amazed by their total lack of awareness.

Peace

Only really one flagrant which was the close line on #5. The Oakland Raiders of the 70's would have been proud. The push in the back was definitely intentional. Foul #3, the kid tried to hold up and I wouldn't have called it flagrant, although he did hit him in the head. However, he appeared to be attempting to block the shot but not very well.

[dave30]

Aaaahhhh.....just kids being kids!!!

They will all probably end up being best friends in college!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Plays two and six, I have nothing in of themselves. The other plays, at minimum would be an intentional foul in my book in of themselves (with the fifth play being a straight flagrant by itself) but since we have number 34 for white not seemingly attempting to play any legit defense, he would have been tossed well before we got to those other plays.

Agreed. Those two were just fouls, even if a little hard. INT for several other for excessive contact.

Originally Posted by fullor30

Frightening. Best thing I ever picked up at a camp was from a D1 official who said identify a troublemaker and get him out of there. 34 certainly is a troublemaker

Our state supevisor says to find the star and find the a$$hole.

BTW, haven't been on much this week. My Ford Ranger XLT burned to the ground Monday morning. But I posted this is a thread before seeing this thread and my initial comment was this may draw more responses than any thread in a long time!

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Boy, saw this yesterday...Thoughts or comments? Maybe this is what happens when they fire CHSEagle?!?!?

Flagrant foul no-calls Highland @ Connell 12/22/11 - YouTube

Thanks for the information I'm sending a copy of the video to the AD.

[VaTerp]

Wow- Is this really Chseagle's school?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Wow- Is this really Chseagle's school?

Yes that was really Connell High, I've never seen them get that physical.

#34 was one of our primary defensive players for football, & watching that video he still thinks it's football.

Of course, not everything is being shown, perhaps some Highland players were playing the same way.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Yes that was really Connell High, I've never seen them get that physical.

#34 was one of our primary defensive players for football, & watching that video he still thinks it's football.

Of course, not everything is being shown, perhaps some Highland players were playing the same way.

If you saw the video, it was amazing that they weren't responding to the violence. And even if they did play the same way, that doesn't justify anything. Ref needs to deal with that too.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

If you saw the video, it was amazing that they weren't responding to the violence. And even if they did play the same way, that doesn't justify anything. Ref needs to deal with that too.

I did watch the video, nowhere did I say that #34's actions were caused by actions of the other team, I said that was a chance/possibility.