Advancing the ball on a time out

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's also a FIBA rule and it is a great rule. It promotes exciting finishes.

Didn't know it was in FIBA, too. Thanks for that.

Still, I believe you should get the ball where you had (read: earned) the ball. If an exciting finish is the justification, then let's move the ball to the 50-yard line after a football timeout, giving the offense a better chance to score.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Didn't know it was in FIBA, too. Thanks for that.

Still, I believe you should get the ball where you had (read: earned) the ball. If an exciting finish is the justification, then let's move the ball to the 50-yard line after a football timeout, giving the offense a better chance to score.

Fundamentally, football is about field position and forward progress. I think basketball's "court position" is less relevant than football's field position.

What I would like to see in football is the 4-point field goal attempt. Attempts where the PLS (Point of Last Scrimmage) is beyond a certain spot would be worth 4 points instead of 3:

• In Canadian football, this could be the 45-yard line
• In American football, this could be the 35-yard line

This would make for exciting endings too. Down by 7, two field goals could tie the game!

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

What I would like to see in football is the 4-point field goal attempt. Attempts where the PLS (Point of Last Scrimmage) is beyond a certain spot would be worth 4 points instead of 3:

• In Canadian football, this could be the 45-yard line
• In American football, this could be the 35-yard line

This would make for exciting endings too. Down by 7, two field goals could tie the game!

Risk vs reward.......may entice more long field goals.

Me likey.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Fundamentally, football is about field position and forward progress. I think basketball's "court position" is less relevant than football's field position.

What I would like to see in football is the 4-point field goal attempt. Attempts where the PLS (Point of Last Scrimmage) is beyond a certain spot would be worth 4 points instead of 3:

• In Canadian football, this could be the 45-yard line
• In American football, this could be the 35-yard line

This would make for exciting endings too. Down by 7, two field goals could tie the game!

And they'd then have to change the NFHS rules cause a long, missed FG that reaches the goal line is merely a touchback.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And they'd then have to change the NFHS rules cause a long, missed FG that reaches the goal line is merely a touchback.

Risk/reward as mentioned earlier.

[tref]

Funny how most think the advance spot is to halfcourt instead of the 28' mark in the f/c. They rebound & dribble/pass or inbound after a score & then request the t/o

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Fundamentally, football is about field position and forward progress. I think basketball's "court position" is less relevant than football's field position.

While it is indeed easier to move the ball around a basketball court, try sinking a three-pointer from 21 feet, then try the same from the division line. On average, I'd say you'd be more successful with the former. Reaching your desired spot matters.

Like anything else, I believe you need to earn your spot. The high school and college rules recognize this, which is why you get the ball where you had it last. As for 4-point field goals in the NFL, the reason why you don't get more points for longer field goals is the same reason you need to kick from "way back there," you didn't earn the spot.

And, if you're down by 7, get in the end zone.