How much do you talk to coaches?

[JRutledge]

I only talk to them when they ask questions or when the ball is clearly dead like during or after a timeout. Otherwise I do not seek them out or try to say much to them. They have a job to do and there is not much reason to talk to them. I also do not answer statements or address them when they are yelling.

Peace

[PG_Ref]

Also, a large number of coaches don't know the rules. So if you have a firm grasp of the rules, you can explain a call to them verbatim according to the rule and you may be able to confuse them enough to keep them quiet for the remainder of the game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

Also, a large number of coaches don't know the rules. So if you have a firm grasp of the rules, you can explain a call to them verbatim according to the rule and you may be able to confuse them enough to keep them quiet for the remainder of the game.

And even when you know the rule and explain the rule in detail, they will still argue with you. I have explained verticality only to have coaches tell me there is such thing as "over the back." I had a coach try to tell me the other day that I should call a "moving screen" when his player literally ran around the guy. It never ceases to amaze me how dumb and stupid coaches can be when you try to talk to them even in the most calm and logic voice.

Peace

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And even when you know the rule and explain the rule in detail, they will still argue with you. I have explained verticality only to have coaches tell me there is such thing as "over the back." I had a coach try to tell me the other day that I should call a "moving screen" when his player literally ran around the guy. It never ceases to amaze me how dumb and stupid coaches can be when you try to talk to them even in the most calm and logic voice.

Peace

You can add to that list ... "This isn't the NBA. There's no continuation (continuous motion) in high school.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And even when you know the rule and explain the rule in detail, they will still argue with you. I have explained verticality only to have coaches tell me there is such thing as "over the back." I had a coach try to tell me the other day that I should call a "moving screen" when his player literally ran around the guy. It never ceases to amaze me how dumb and stupid coaches can be when you try to talk to them even in the most calm and logic voice.

Peace

Because for every Official there is on this forum that knows better, there is another Official out there running to the table saying "foul's on #23 over the back".

And maybe an announcer or 2 on TV....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Because for every Official there is on this forum that knows better, there is another Official out there running to the table saying "foul's on #23 over the back".

And maybe an announcer or 2 on TV....

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

Who are 90% of the announcers? Former coaches and players....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

It's not a majority, but it isn't rare either; not in my experience anyway.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's not a majority, but it isn't rare either; not in my experience anyway.

I cannot think of a single official in years that has used that term that I have worked with.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I only talk to them when they ask questions or when the ball is clearly dead like during or after a timeout. Otherwise I do not seek them out or try to say much to them. They have a job to do and there is not much reason to talk to them. I also do not answer statements or address them when they are yelling.

I hate that coaches can say some pretty stupid things at times, but there's wisdom in the saying that "You can't misquote silence." I've learned to ignore a lot of meaningless comments that are said during the heat of the game.

The hardest thing officials need to learn is to not care what coaches think about them during a game. Sure, an official wants to be known as professional, approachable, hard-working, etc., but the nature of the job is that there are a lot of close decisions that will annoy or anger one of the two coaches. It's part of the gig.

My biggest growth on the football field has been to let my wings (I'm a referee) handle 100% of the communication with the coaches unless someone specifically requests my presence as the crew chief). My biggest growth on the basketball court has been to learn that sometimes the best response to a comment (or even a loaded question) is to show the coach the back of my shirt.