How much do you talk to coaches?

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And even when you know the rule and explain the rule in detail, they will still argue with you. I have explained verticality only to have coaches tell me there is such thing as "over the back." I had a coach try to tell me the other day that I should call a "moving screen" when his player literally ran around the guy. It never ceases to amaze me how dumb and stupid coaches can be when you try to talk to them even in the most calm and logic voice.

Peace

Because for every Official there is on this forum that knows better, there is another Official out there running to the table saying "foul's on #23 over the back".

And maybe an announcer or 2 on TV....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Because for every Official there is on this forum that knows better, there is another Official out there running to the table saying "foul's on #23 over the back".

And maybe an announcer or 2 on TV....

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

Who are 90% of the announcers? Former coaches and players....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There might be, but that is so rare that is not where the coaches get that from the majority of the time. I run a class of newer officials and it is the former players and coaches I have to get out of that habit language. And announcers do not help as they constantly repeat this fraud.

Peace

It's not a majority, but it isn't rare either; not in my experience anyway.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's not a majority, but it isn't rare either; not in my experience anyway.

I cannot think of a single official in years that has used that term that I have worked with.

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot think of a single official in years that has used that term that I have worked with.

Peace

I have heard a few of them. "White 24 with a reach" is also used by said officials. I try to not let my winces become visible in those situations.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I have heard a few of them. "White 24 with a reach" is also used by said officials. I try to not let my winces become visible in those situations.

I did work with a guy that said "reach" a while ago, but then again he never got to the point in his career as others. Of course it was not because of this, but if you do this what other things are you not paying attention to.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I have heard a few of them. "White 24 with a reach" is also used by said officials. I try to not let my winces become visible in those situations.

+1

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I did work with a guy that said "reach" a while ago, but then again he never got to the point in his career as others. Of course it was not because of this, but if you do this what other things are you not paying attention to.

Peace

Agreed

[tref]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I have heard a few of them. "White 24 with a reach" is also used by said officials. I try to not let my winces become visible in those situations.

I heard "24 white, contact" the other day.

I thought involved parties might be led to think that all contact is a foul

[Toren]

I did the IAABO camp this summer and learned that apparently on the East Coast it's predominantly the case to say "Illegal Use" and in Colorado it's common to say "Hit". I found that kind of interesting. I have tried both and "Illegal Use" never rolls off my tongue.

Back on the subject, I heard a 4th year varsity official the other night say "over the back" and he actually did a made up mechanic to demonstrate this to the coach. It was two man and I don't think I kept my poker face at all.