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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 03:37pm
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Is this standard/accepted practice in your area?
In mine, if our assignor or executive director discovered that we were e-mailing HS coaches or AD's we'd be looking at a suspension, plus you can kiss any playoff assignments goodbye.
IMS, fullor does not operate in an association/assigner system.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 06:32pm
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IMS, fullor does not operate in an association/assigner system.
I have probably 7-8 assigners I get Varsity games from.

That said, I try and get DVD of game from coaches via email............much to do about nothing around here
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 08:02pm
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How does one roll over...

...without rolling? If you roll, you have traveled, even if it's a cheek, and thank goodness for compression shorts -- all players should wear them.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:18pm
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...without rolling? If you roll, you have traveled, even if it's a cheek, and thank goodness for compression shorts -- all players should wear them.

Really? Where I can read this?

My rule book and case book says "roll over," not "roll."

Sometimes, I think people are just looking for an excuse to blow the whistle.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 04:18pm
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Is this standard/accepted practice in your area?
In mine, if our assignor or executive director discovered that we were e-mailing HS coaches or AD's we'd be looking at a suspension, plus you can kiss any playoff assignments goodbye.
Same here. Any communication between officials, and the schools we service, other than a simple game confirmation email, or a simple email inquiry about a late payment, must go through our local board secretary, or our local board assignment commissioner.

I got in trouble with this a few years ago. A rookie coach asked me after the game how his kids did in terms of sportsmanship, since it was one of his goals that season. I told him that they were great. He asked me to send his athletic director an email about it, which I stupidly did. My board secretary, and assignment commissioner, weren't too happy when they found out about it. Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me. Man. I'll never make that mistake again.
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Is this standard/accepted practice in your area?
In mine, if our assignor or executive director discovered that we were e-mailing HS coaches or AD's we'd be looking at a suspension, plus you can kiss any playoff assignments goodbye.

Executive director? What's that? Who do you work for? The Gestapo?

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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 09:41pm
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[QUOTE=fullor30;805924]Executive director? What's that? Who do you work for? The Gestapo? [/QUOTE
Executive Director of the state high school athletic association. The governing body of all high school sports in our state.
They establish the rules and procedures regarding our expected conduct with coaches and ADs. You want to work....you follow the rules.

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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 09:49pm
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Executive director? What's that? Who do you work for? The Gestapo? [/QUOTE
Executive Director of the state high school athletic association. The governing body of all high school sports in our state.
I will say I don't email coaches to snuggle up to them for better ratings or favors. I've had rules questioned before by a coach and have told them I would provide it to them. I'm friendly with a couple of coaches and on occasion they've called or emailed me for some summer scrimmages. I've never heard of anyone being told not to email coaches or ADs in my area.

But like anything else, I just follow orders, so If IHSA said don't, I don't.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 09:51pm
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Based on OP ... I agree with Nevada & say no violation.

I have tried to teach my dog the simple trick of rolling over. He almost gets there, but that goes back to original position. By defenition: he does not complete the roll over.

No Travel.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 10:59pm
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can you teach him to start a dribble then you can forget about the rolling over thing.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:16pm
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Girls varsity tonight. A1 is on floor( I can't remember how she got there, loose ball and she recovered probably) holding ball while on her back defenders are reaching down trying to grab ball. A1 swings arms from side to side slightly rolling from side to side(let's call it one cheek up if you will) Shoulders turning almost perpendicular to floor to give you a visual.

I call travel. Coach disagrees, I tell him it's a travel by rule he tells me no it isn't.

'A player while on his/her back may pass shoot dribble or call a timeout. He/she may not roll over' per casebook4-44-5b is all I could find. is the act of rolling travelling? Is rolling over just that, rolling over? I couldn't find anything else to support my case, so did I kick it? I felt the girl was gaining an advantage from rocking from side to side.

Clearly, it may be a 'I have to see it' moment. Is the fact she was rolling enough to justify my call?

Bring it on, I promised to email coach ruling and I may have to choose fried, poached or scrambled egg on my face.

I will say, I've never had my judgement questioned before in this situation on many levels of ball.
Unless she rolls from her back to her side, I have nothing.

And there's no such thing as a pivot cheeck, no matter what MTD and Billy Mac think.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 02:32am
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Unless she rolls from her back to her side, I have nothing.

And there's no such thing as a pivot cheeck, no matter what MTD and Billy Mac think.
Thank you. I'm so tired of hearing that crap.
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