Did I drop kick one?

[refiator]

I think you are splitting hairs. I have nothing based on your description.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by refiator

I have nothing based on your description.

And I've got a travel.

(Man. I hate it when I agree with Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. It never turns out well.)

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And I've got a travel.

(Man. I hate it when I agree with Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. It never turns out well.)

Billy,

Give me your reasoning, I see both sides and hopefully you can sway me to travelling

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Give me your reasoning, I see both sides and hopefully you can sway me to traveling

As Nevadaref stated many posts ago, it's a gray area in the rulebook. Maybe it's a, "When in my little part of Connecticut" thing. We've always been taught to call a travel if the player on the ground moves their body, not their arms, in any way that prevents defenders from grabbing the ball, like starting to roll over. If the player on the ground does anything else other than pass, shoot, start a dribble, request a timeout, or sit up, Connecticuters call a traveling violation every time.

Of course, the player could just lay there on the ground for up to seven minutes and fifty-nine seconds, if not closely guarded, but that's probably not going to happen in a real game.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

As Nevadaref stated many posts ago, it's a gray area in the rulebook. Maybe it's a, "When in my little part of Connecticut" thing. We've always been taught to call a travel if the player on the ground moves their body, not their arms, in any way that prevents defenders from grabbing the ball, like starting to roll over. If the player on the ground does anything else other than pass, shoot, start a dribble, request a timeout, or sit up, Connecticuters call a traveling violation every time.

Of course, the player could just lay there on the ground for up to seven minutes and fifty-nine seconds, if not closely guarded, but that's probably not going to happen in a real game.

That's how I see it, it really is a gray area.

Say, if you reffed a game in Port Arthur Texas, would you be a Connecticut referee on Port Arthur's court? Ouch.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Say, if you reffed a game in Port Arthur Texas, would you be a Connecticut referee on Port Arthur's court? Ouch.

Oh, well done.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by fullor30

That's how I see it, it really is a gray area.

Say, if you reffed a game in Port Arthur Texas, would you be a Connecticut referee on Port Arthur's court? Ouch.

Fullor30:

I think that Billy is being modest. It has never been a gray area in NBCUSC, NFHS, or NCAA Rules since I started officiating (1971-72). The simple fact of intentionally rolling one's body as described in the OP is traveling.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by fullor30

A Connecticut Referee on Port Arthur's Court?

Fabulous pun. Very creative.



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