Defender slaps ball out of inbounder's hands

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tophat67

So no warning on on the first time they do it? Warnings only on inbounds plane violations and not hitting the ball?

No. A T or an IP foul is ALSO the first warning. If they then break the plane again (without hitting the ball / arm), it's another T.

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What if the thrower has broken the plane with the ball and part of his/her arm.

In attempt to play the ball, the defender makes contact with throwers arm - which has broken the plane?

Is this an intentional foul or common foul?

Intentional

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

What if the thrower has broken the plane with the ball and part of his/her arm.

In attempt to play the ball, the defender makes contact with throwers arm - which has broken the plane?

Is this an intentional foul or common foul?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Intentional

Unfortunately, that is the current ruling.

It doesn't really make sense that you are allowed to play the ball but if you miss and get a little arm, you get an intentional foul, but that is what the rules committee has decided. I think they have a minimum quota of nonsensical rulings that they must make each year.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Unfortunately, that is the current ruling.

It doesn't really make sense that you are allowed to play the ball but if you miss and get a little arm, you get an intentional foul, but that is what the rules committee has decided. I think they have a minimum quota of nonsensical rulings that they must make each year.

Well I guess we could treat that as incidental unless the contact rises to the level of an intentional foul. Not exactly what they wanted but I'm just saying...

[BillyMac]

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin before the ball has been released on a throw-in pass, the defender’s team will receive a team delay warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team delay warning will be recorded. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane, and fouls the inbounding player, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team delay warning will be recorded. It is an intentional personal foul if the defender fouls the inbounding player, even without breaking the imaginary plane, however, in this specific case, there is no delay of game warning because the defender did not break the boundary plane.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Well I guess we could treat that as incidental unless the contact rises to the level of an intentional foul. Not exactly what they wanted but I'm just saying...

Don't think so. If there's contact, it's an intentional foul. Now, if the contact is missed, ...

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Don't think so. If there's contact, it's an intentional foul. Now, if the contact is missed, ...

Good point, I guess in this case there is no such thing as incidental contact. I still don't like it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Good point, I guess in this case there is no such thing as incidental contact. I still don't like it.

Wonder about contact with the hand....

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wonder about contact with the hand....

Intentional Foul.