Defender slaps ball out of inbounder's hands

[ballgame99]

What's the call? I'm having trouble finding the rule. Had this happen not once, but twice last night.

[Adam]

Where was the ball in relation to the OOB plane?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

What's the call? I'm having trouble finding the rule. Had this happen not once, but twice last night.

Where is the ball? Is the ball on the outside of the boundary plane? Or inside the court?

[tref]

Where did the thrower have the ball when it was slapped?

[ballgame99]

she was holding it at her chest (ie not in the motion of throwing it in) both times. So it was behind the line.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

she was holding it at her chest (ie not in the motion of throwing it in) both times. So it was behind the line.

Technical...both times

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Toren

Technical...both times

And the first time it's ALSO a DOG warning (unless one had already been issued).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

she was holding it at her chest (ie not in the motion of throwing it in) both times. So it was behind the line.

If she was standing close enough to the line, holding it at her chest could leave part of the ball over the in bounds side of the line, but assuming the ball was completely OOB, Toren and Bob have answered.

[APG]

9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction.

RULING: B1 is charged with a technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded and reported to the head coach.

COMMENT: In situations with the clock running and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)

[Toren]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If she was standing close enough to the line, holding it at her chest could leave part of the ball over the in bounds side of the line, but assuming the ball was completely OOB, Toren and Bob have answered.

I'm glad you didn't ask how big her chest was, that's a different forum

[ballgame99]

OK, cool, we T'd both of them up. So if part of the ball is over the line what is the call?

Both of these were not just the defender tapping or touching the ball, they both forcefully knocked it out of the inbounder's hands.

[APG]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

OK, cool, we T'd both of them up. So if part of the ball is over the line what is the call?

Both of these were not just the defender tapping or touching the ball, they both forcefully knocked it out of the inbounder's hands.

7.6.4 SITUATION A: While attempting a throw-in, A1 holds the ball through the plane of the end line. B1: (a) slaps the ball from A1’s hand(s); or (b) simply grabs the ball and then throws it through B’s basket. RULING: In (a), no violation has occurred and play continues. In (b), score two points for Team B.

[Adam]

If the ball is on the in bounds side, it's a legal play.

[Hugh Refner]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the ball is on the in bounds side, it's a legal play.

OK, what if part of the ball in inbounds and part is OOB and the defender slaps the ball on the inbounds side? A few years ago, I had this happen. I was told that if any part of the ball is OOB and any part of the ball is slapped (even the part that was inbounds), you make the call.

I guess it's part of the same thinking that caused the rule change this year about fouling the inbounders hands while they're over the court is the same intentional foul call as if the contact occurred with the part of their hand that was OOB. It's just too tough for the official to make that distinction.

Comments?

[ballgame99]

Wow. In all my years of playing/coaching and now reffing I did not know that. Thanks. I would imagine if that happened in live action coaches and fans would freak the freak out.