2 Pre Game Techs

[refiator]

Anyone ever started a game with a technical foul? I think most officials do everything they can to avoid this but obviously sometimes it is warranted.
We had a game recently here where a team was issued 2 technicals for pre-game dunks. Just wondering what others would do avoid this, if anything. Coach called me this morning about the crew and claims that he did not have any time to address the first tech with his team before the second was called.
I wasn't there, but wonder if the second tech could have been avoided by better management. Wish I had seen what transpired.

[APG]

Well, what happened exactly?

[refiator]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Well, what happened exactly?

Don't have knowledge except from the offending coach. I am assuming the first T was warranted....the question, then, is how would you manage this to avoid the second T? Coach claims he never had a chance to address his team after the first T. I have a difficult time believing that both happened so fast that the second couldn't have been avoided....But again, I wasn't there.

[Adam]

Coach should have addressed this in practice, not relied on the refs to somehow give him time. Stupid whiners.

[JRutledge]

Yes actually had one tonight before the game for illegal uniforms (do not get me started).

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes actually had one tonight before the game for illegal uniforms (do not get me started).

Peace

How can one have a technical for illegal uniforms BEFORE the game when the rule clearly states that is illegal for the head coach to allow a team member TO PARTICIPATE while wearing such. Hmmmm....wouldn't that mean that the ball must become live prior to this infraction occurring?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How can one have a technical for illegal uniforms BEFORE the game when the rule clearly states that is illegal for the head coach to allow a player TO PARTICIPATE while wearing such. Hmmmm....

10-5-4 maybe?

You know the entire team has the same jersey that is illegal jersey and they are about to participate in that game (starters and subs). Oh and we do not work for the NF, the powers that be want a T for this before the game, which is their right to interpret the rules or make the rule more punitive if they choose. So you can save all your interpretations, semantics or even word play, no one cares what you think around here.

Peace

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

no one cares what you think around here.

That's not entirely true.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fiasco

That's not entirely true.

People in the Illinois office care what Nevada thinks about this issue? Name one?

I will give you a day to come up with a name too.

Peace

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

People in the Illinois office care what Nevada thinks about this issue? Name one?

I will give you a day to come up with a name too.

Peace

I thought you meant no one on the board cares what Nevada thinks.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I thought you meant no one on the board cares what Nevada thinks.

Nope.

Peace

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by refiator

Don't have knowledge except from the offending coach. I am assuming the first T was warranted....the question, then, is how would you manage this to avoid the second T? Coach claims he never had a chance to address his team after the first T. I have a difficult time believing that both happened so fast that the second couldn't have been avoided....But again, I wasn't there.

If the players hate their coach so bad that they want to dunk him out of a job, its NOT MY job to save him. If his players are so ignorant of the rules, thats on him, not me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

If the players hate their coach so bad that they want to dunk him out of a job, its NOT MY job to save him.

I've heard this before. Is this one of those urban myths, or did it really happen?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Coach should have addressed this in practice, not relied on the refs to somehow give him time. Stupid whiners.

Agreed. I'm betting he knew the rule. Therefore, he should have addressed it before his team ever took the floor for game 1.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I am not about to become the third man in the ring for the MMA Smackdown between Rut and Nevada, BUT:

"NFHS Casebook Play 3.4.5 SITUATION: Prior to the jump ball to start the game, the officials observe that the five Team B starters are all wearing pants which have (a) a manufacturer's logo and a school's mascot which meets the proper dimension limitations; or (b) a manufacturer's logo that exceeds the limitation of 2¼ square inches by 2¼ square inches in any one dimension. RULING: Legal uniforms in (a). In (b), illegal pants. The Team B head coach is charged directly with a technical foul. (R3-S6-A2; R10-S5-A4)" seems to support Rut's imposition of a TF.

I would assume that Rut and his partners noticed this well before the start of the game and approached the HC to see if the team would be able to rectify the problem before the start of the game so that there would be no need for a TF charged to the HC.

And I agree with Rut, I do not like having to be a fashion policeman.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I agree with Snaqs and Tony. Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY knows a player cannot dunk during the pregame warmups and I hope that refiator and his partners reminded the HC that he was now going to spend the rest of the game in the lockerroom.

P.P.S. And yes I did start a game once with two TF's (against the HC no less) but that is a story for another day, .