Dead Ball Foul

[Refsmitty]

10-3-7 states the following:

ART. 7 . . . Intentionally or flagrantly contacting an opponent when the ball is
dead and such contact is not a personal foul.

Can there be a common (personal) foul during a dead ball that is not a T?

[APG]

Foul committed by/on an airborne shooter

[tref]

4-19-1 & the note

[Refsmitty]

But any other contact foul during a dead ball has to be a T - correct?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

But any other contact foul during a dead ball has to be a T - correct?

Correct.

[Refsmitty]

A foul is an infraction of the rules which is charged and is penalized.
ART. 1 . . . A personal foul is a player foul which involves illegal contact with
an opponent while the ball is live, which hinders an opponent from performing
normal defensive and offensive movements. A personal foul also includes contact
by or on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead.
NOTE: Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or
flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

But any other contact foul during a dead ball has to be a T - correct?

Trying to get this straight in my mind. Section 19 Foul Art 3 says " An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. "

So does this mean that an intentional foul during a dead ball is considered an intentional technical and yet an intentional foul (fouling the thrower on a throwin) is considered an intentional personal foul?

Confused?

[tref]

Personals fouls invlolve live ball situations, cant be personal when the ball is dead.

[JRutledge]

I have a 15 yards and an automatic first down.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Trying to get this straight in my mind. Section 19 Foul Art 3 says " An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. "

So does this mean that an intentional foul during a dead ball is considered an intentional technical and yet an intentional foul (fouling the thrower on a throwin) is considered an intentional personal foul?

Confused?

Correct. All fouls are either personal (generally, live ball contact) or technical (generally, dead ball contact, or non-contact).

Fouls may also have a "modifier" -- common (even though it's not specifically used for Ts), intentional, flagrant, PC, TC.

Fouls are also either single, double, multiple (avoid these!), false double, false multiple (the latter two are really just a sequence of single fouls).

No such thing as an "intentional flagrant foul."

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

So does this mean that an intentional foul during a dead ball is considered an intentional technical and yet an intentional foul (fouling the thrower on a throwin) is considered an intentional personal foul?

Yes. The ball is live during a throw-in once it is at the disposal of the thrower.

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Yes. The ball is live during a throw-in once it is at the disposal of the thrower.

Thanks Bob and Mbyron,
So player A1 blatantly shoves B1 during a dead ball, reff calls it an intentional technical foul (rough dead ball contact,can't be ignored) Any eligible player can shoot the free throws and ball at division line since it is categorized as a technical? I know about a regular live ball intentional--offended player only shoots and ball at POI.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Any eligible player can shoot the free throws and ball at division line since it is categorized as a technical?

Same as any T -- any player(s) can shoot the FTs.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Same as any T -- any player(s) can shoot the FTs.

Including substitutes that can become player(s) between the time of the T and the time the shots are taken.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Including substitutes that can become player(s) between the time of the T and the time the shots are taken.

Also, the FTs may be shot by 2 different team members.