Team Bench Area?

[ref2coach]

I have found a definition for the Team Time out area that includes the bench area. Does anyone know where to find the definition of the "Team Bench Area"?

[just another ref]

1-13-3: The time-out area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

[Nevadaref]

Rule 1, SECTION 13 TEAM BENCH LOCATIONS, COACHING BOX, TIME-OUT AREA

ART. 1 . . .

The location of each team's bench shall be designated by game
management. It is recommended that the benches for team members and
coaches of both teams be placed along that side of the court on which the

scorer's and timer's table is located.

That is about the best that you are going to get. The bench area is obviously out of bounds, but after that it depends upon where game management for a particular school wishes to have the teams. Some places have chairs, some put the teams in the first row of the bleachers, some are further back from the court than others, etc.

[JRutledge]

There was once a diagram that was used by the NF that suggested that area was from the benches to the lane line. This was in a PowerPoint slide and if I can find it I will post the pic. Or if someone has the pic they can post it.

Peace

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Rule 1, SECTION 13 TEAM BENCH LOCATIONS, COACHING BOX, TIME-OUT AREA

ART. 1 . . .

The location of each team's bench shall be designated by game
management. It is recommended that the benches for team members and
coaches of both teams be placed along that side of the court on which the

scorer's and timer's table is located.

That is about the best that you are going to get. The bench area is obviously out of bounds, but after that it depends upon where game management for a particular school wishes to have the teams. Some places have chairs, some put the teams in the first row of the bleachers, some are further back from the court than others, etc.

Nevada, What you have posted is also the only reference I had already found. We are arguing a NFHS question. We are trying to see if the question is poorly written and is using "team bench area" to mean "time out area" OR does the question want us to know that "bench area" and "time out area" are NOT the same thing.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

Nevada, What you have posted is also the only reference I had already found. We are arguing a NFHS question. We are trying to see if the question is poorly written and is using "team bench area" to mean "time out area" OR does the question want us to know that "bench area" and "time out area" are NOT the same thing.

They are clearly not the same.
Type the text of the question and I'll give my thoughts.

[derwil]

I've never really seen a gym with a weird bench area. I've seen one's so close to the court that the players can't put their feet on the floor out of bounds, seen teams in the first and second row of the stands. Never seen anything like say Vanderbilt with the bench areas on the side.

Anyone got a weird story?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by derwil

Anyone got a weird story?

Very old Catholic middle school. Benches are on opposite endlines. Absolutely no room out of bounds along the sidelines, literally an inch, or two, between the sidelines and the walls. Three point lines intersect the sidelines above the free throw line extended.

[jTheUmp]

There's one middle school around here that splits their gym in two for games (girls on one side, boys on the other). A fold-out divider separates the two, with no out-of-bounds room on that long side of the court. The other side of the court is the stacked-up bleachers, with about a foot of out-of-bounds area. In essence, we almost have arena-football-style boundary walls.

The team benches are on opposite baselines, and the scorer's table is at the "home team's" baseline with one of those little portable scoreboards that's about the size of a suitcase.

Makes for some interesting challenges and 'ground rules'. Luckily, it's only 7th and 8th grade ball.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

They are clearly not the same.
Type the text of the question and I'll give my thoughts.

"The team bench area is an imaginary rectangle formed by the sideline (including the bench), end line, nearer free-throw lane line extended and the coaching-box line." True or False

I answered false because this is the definition for the time-out area. Others are saying standard poor NFHS question writing and true will therefore be the correct answer.

[kwatson]

My partner and I showed up to a HS C game being played in an auxiliary gym. The team benches were set up across the court from the table. We asked the coach how he planned on his team checking in with the table, followed by a blank look and a quick yell to his players to move the benches across the court.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

"The team bench area is an imaginary rectangle formed by the sideline (including the bench), end line, nearer free-throw lane line extended and the coaching-box line." True or False

I answered false because this is the definition for the time-out area. Others are saying standard poor NFHS question writing and true will therefore be the correct answer.

You are correct. This is a question from an old NFHS exam. About three seasons ago the NFHS changed the wording of this question to say "The time-out area is an..." That was done the same year that the definition of the time-out area was added to the Rules Book.

If someone else doesn't post the exact years of what I wrote above, I return when I have more time and do so for you.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Very old Catholic middle school. Benches are on opposite endlines. Absolutely no room out of bounds along the sidelines, literally an inch, or two, between the sidelines and the walls. Three point lines intersect the sidelines above the free throw line extended.

Why even play there?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Why even play there?

Because it is better than the parking lot?

Some organizations just play in whatever facility they can get, is convenient, or is cheap. Not all will be as nice as MSG.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Because it is better than the parking lot?

Some organizations just play in whatever facility they can get, is convenient, or is cheap. Not all will be as nice as MSG.

I thought you'd say not all will be as nice as Matthew Knight Arena?