Basketball or Soccer

[loners4me]

Weird game this weekend.

1. A1 throws ball to A2 who "headers" it to A3 for a layup.

2. A1 throws an in-bounds pass to A2 who rests the ball on his back and runs down the court (no hands involved and all in one motion). Travel??? I didn't call anything as I did not consider it as ball control, but rather lack thereof.

3. I pass on a kick ball as I thought it was inadvertent. A1 throws to A2 who is running up the court. The ball hits the back of A2s leg and then straight to A3 for a layup. Coach was calling for a kick but I thought no way did that kid intentionally use his legs to make that pass, it had to be luck.


Come to find out that the basketball team consists of mostly soccer players and these kids were good............at soccer and most of the acts in question were probably deliberate.

[tref]

Got video?

[mbyron]

1. Legal.

2. Whether this constitutes traveling depends on whether you judge that the player was holding the ball. The rules do not define 'holding' the ball: in this case, it seems clear that the player was in control of the ball despite not holding it in his hands. I would call traveling.

3. Judgment call regarding a kick. If I knew that the team was made up of soccer players, I might be inclined to regard this as intentional rather than luck if the "pass" went directly to a team mate who was open for a layup.

[APG]

I agree with mbyron except for point two. I'm not considering that player control...are you saying you'd grant a timeout in that same situation as well?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I agree with mbyron except for point two. I'm not considering that player control...are you saying you'd grant a timeout in that same situation as well?

No, I told you, I'd call traveling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I agree with mbyron except for point two. I'm not considering that player control...are you saying you'd grant a timeout in that same situation as well?

I think it depends on how far he carries it like that. a step or two, nothing. Halfway down the court, travel.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The rules do not define 'holding' the ball: in this case, it seems clear that the player was in control of the ball despite not holding it in his hands. I would call traveling.

Did the ball come to rest?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think it depends on how far he carries it like that. a step or two, nothing. Halfway down the court, travel.

If he has it on his back halfway down the court, then that's just poor defense. If you'd call traveling, then you're also saying you'd grant a timeout (absent your traveling call). I have a hard time seeing anyone try and pass that one off.

[Welpe]

1. Legal

2. I agree with Snaqs, a few steps probably nothing but half the court, I'd consider a travel. I'd also wonder what the heck the defense was thinking.

3. Sounds legal but if not, I'd caution the player for unsporting conduct. Oh wait, wrong sport.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Did the ball come to rest?

No, it continued around the sun at 17,600 MPH.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

No, it continued around the sun at 17,600 MPH.

Heliocentrist.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think it depends on how far he carries it like that. a step or two, nothing. Halfway down the court, travel.

IOW, you would adjudicate the same as any other travel call?