IPAD on the Bench

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Good rapport between table & floor officials: all are there to ensure the game goes smoothly as to game management. Clear communication is available.

If the information in the appendices were read and followed, there would be less chance of those working table being clueless.

I didn't even post anything under 4.0.3 Training the Table Officials which is what you're saying is irrelevant. It would become relevant if it was followed.

What are you living in, Fantasy land? No one gives a darn about rapport with people that still do not know how to do their job.

I do not care what the damn book says if the people you claim should read it have no idea what that is. Just like many coaches do not know what a rulebook looks like, I think even less table people even know what an Official's Manual is, let alone what the NF is. Do you know how many cheat sheets or guidelines many of has seen over the years. I even know officials that give the table a little sheet to cover guidelines and they still screw up basic stuff. Again if table people would not screw up basic stuff like the darn possession arrow, then maybe I would have more faith in their ability to start and stop a clock appropriately outside of the game clock. You cannot be that ignit can you?

Peace

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What are you living in, Fantasy land? No one gives a darn about rapport with people that still do not know how to do their job.

I do not care what the damn book says if the people you claim should read it have no idea what that is. Just like many coaches do not know what a rulebook looks like, I think even less table people even know what an Official's Manual is, let alone what the NF is. Do you know how many cheat sheets or guidelines many of has seen over the years. I even know officials that give the table a little sheet to cover guidelines and they still screw up basic stuff. Again if table people would not screw up basic stuff like the darn possession arrow, then maybe I would have more faith in their ability to start and stop a clock appropriately outside of the game clock. You cannot be that ignit can you?

Peace

Did no one get my message about going back on topic concerning iPads being present on the bench?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Did no one get my message about going back on topic concerning iPads being present on the bench?

You don't get to decide what people post, partner. It's a discussion board, which means people will discuss what they want to.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Did no one get my message about going back on topic concerning iPads being present on the bench?

Did you get the message this is an officiating site, not one for scorekeepers and timers? When that happens then I will worry about what you want to talk about.

Peace

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Did you get the message this is an officiating site, not one for scorekeepers and timers? When that happens then I will worry about what you want to talk about.

Peace

I don't think it will ever come to this for me......

Now, back on topic!

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Did you get the message this is an officiating site, not one for scorekeepers and timers? When that happens then I will worry about what you want to talk about.

Peace

Technically 2.1 states that table personnel are officials. The Table Officials are present to assist the game officials.

So if the state says no electonic devices that can transmit/receive are allowed on the bench, then 10.1.3 disallows the coach and other bench personnel from even having a cell phone on his/her personage.

But then an individual's interpretation may vary.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Did no one get my message about going back on topic concerning iPads being present on the bench?

I'm sure everyone who cares saw it.

It would be great if (almost) everyone who works the table took it more seriously. That's not going to happen. Especially at lower level games, the table crew might be picked just a few minutes before the game.

It would also be good if one person who works the table took it less seriously.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Back on topic:

How often do you see bench personnel with a computer/tablet during the game?

Originally Posted by chseagle

Did no one get my message about going back on topic concerning iPads being present on the bench?

No.

Two brides, one stone.

[rockyroad]

I had the same exact scenario last season (towards the end of the season). Assistant coach sitting on bench with an I-Pad. He said "But I'm just using if to take stats!" Told him I didn't care, that it had the capability to transmit and receive and he couldn't use it.

They "protested" the game...the local Association passed that on to the state. State said that the officials were correct in not allowing it to be used.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I had the same exact scenario last season (towards the end of the season). Assistant coach sitting on bench with an I-Pad. He said "But I'm just using if to take stats!" Told him I didn't care, that it had the capability to transmit and receive and he couldn't use it.

They "protested" the game...the local Association passed that on to the state. State said that the officials were correct in not allowing it to be used.

That sounds as if there is to be no transmission devices or electronic devices on the bench whatsoever.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chseagle

That sounds as if there is to be no transmission devices or electronic devices on the bench whatsoever.

Note the verb "use" in rocky's post?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by chseagle

That sounds as if there is to be no transmission devices or electronic devices on the bench whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Welpe

Note the verb "use" in rocky's post?

I also stated, by using "if", that it was not a definite answer to the solution. Same like with cell phones, it all depends on a person's interpretation of the rule.

Some may look at it as no electronic devices allowed at all. Others may look at it as devices allowed if not being used during the game (out of sight, out of mind).