IPAD on the Bench

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

10-2-3: A team may not:

Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other
than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or
use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic
transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment
for voice communication with players.

This is a hot button issue in So Cal right now...Our state instructional chair told us to shut down the IPADS on the bench! Too hard for us to determine if they are used for stats only or coaching purposes..so shut them down!

Has this been an issue in other parts of the Country?

[CoachP]

Football has coaches sitting "upstairs" in a booth transmitting to coaches on the sideline. Why should basketball be special?

(Not using an iPad yet, nor am I planning on, nor am I saying we need a rule change, just sayin)

And I need to get my post count up. The eagle has doubled me up and I have been a member almost 3 years more....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Football has coaches sitting "upstairs" in a booth transmitting to coaches on the sideline. Why should basketball be special?

(Not using an iPad yet, nor am I planning on, nor am I saying we need a rule change, just sayin)

And I need to get my post count up. The eagle has doubled me up and I have been a member almost 3 years more....

Well it is a different sport. And for the record football has similar rules as it relates to using phones and computers and pictures for coaching purposes.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Football has coaches sitting "upstairs" in a booth transmitting to coaches on the sideline. Why should basketball be special?

(Not using an iPad yet, nor am I planning on, nor am I saying we need a rule change, just sayin)

And I need to get my post count up. The eagle has doubled me up and I have been a member almost 3 years more....

Now there's a worthy ambition. Be more like the eagle.

[Zoochy]

I just received an email from Missouri State adressing the iPad issue.
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The purpose of this email to clarify the use of iPads and other personal computers by coaches during basketball contests.

NFHS Basketball Rule 10-1-3:

Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment for voice communication with players.

NFHS Office has issued the following statement:

“The use of an iPad or computer is approved as long as they are just replacing a traditional paper alternative, they would meet the spirit and intent of the rule and be permitted. If they are being used to review video or some type of electronic communication, they are prohibited.”


The penalty for violating rule 10-1-3 is a team technical foul. Please refer to the NFHS Basketball Case Book: 10.1.3A and 10.1.3B for examples.

**Applications are available for the ipad to be used like a marker board. This is acceptable as long as it is not used to review video or other forms of electronic communication.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

NFHS Office has issued the following statement:

“The use of an iPad or computer is approved as long as they are just replacing a traditional paper alternative, they would meet the spirit and intent of the rule and be permitted. If they are being used to review video or some type of electronic communication, they are prohibited.”


The penalty for violating rule 10-1-3 is a team technical foul. Please refer to the NFHS Basketball Case Book: 10.1.3A and 10.1.3B for examples.

**Applications are available for the ipad to be used like a marker board. This is acceptable as long as it is not used to review video or other forms of electronic communication.

So how are you going to go about checking? Sounds like something that was put out knowing that officials will have a difficult time enforcing it thereby making it just an exercise in communicating an interpretation.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I just received an email from Missouri State adressing the iPad issue.
=====
The purpose of this email to clarify the use of iPads and other personal computers by coaches during basketball contests.

NFHS Basketball Rule 10-1-3:

Use television monitoring or replay equipment or computers (other than for statistics) for coaching purposes during the game or any intermission or use a megaphone or any mechanical sounding device or any electronic transmission device at courtside for coaching purposes, or electronic equipment for voice communication with players.

NFHS Office has issued the following statement:

“The use of an iPad or computer is approved as long as they are just replacing a traditional paper alternative, they would meet the spirit and intent of the rule and be permitted. If they are being used to review video or some type of electronic communication, they are prohibited.”


The penalty for violating rule 10-1-3 is a team technical foul. Please refer to the NFHS Basketball Case Book: 10.1.3A and 10.1.3B for examples.

**Applications are available for the ipad to be used like a marker board. This is acceptable as long as it is not used to review video or other forms of electronic communication.

Anyone have a link to the release of this from NFHS? I looked on their website and can't find it.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Now there's a worthy ambition. Be more like the eagle.

I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but I did run the clock for Boys Varsity after my girls game. I also made sure I downloaded the rules for the timekeeper as the eagle suggested.

So I walked up and gathered the coaches and referees together for rule number 1:

BEFORE THE GAME:
1. The official timer should ascertain the game starting time and
suggest that the referee and coaches synchronize their watches.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

This is a hot button issue in So Cal right now...Our state instructional chair told us to shut down the IPADS on the bench! Too hard for us to determine if they are used for stats only or coaching purposes..so shut them down!

Has this been an issue in other parts of the Country?

Hasn't been an issue here yet that I'm aware of. Easy fix if they want to use it for stats is the person using it to do so can't be at the bench - no reason they couldn't be in the first row of the bleachers behind the bench though......

[bainsey]

This is one rule I think we can do without. We want our schools to be technologically advanced and prepare our kids for the future, but don't allow using such tools in a game? I think we should be encouraging such use.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

This is one rule I think we can do without. We want our schools to be technologically advanced and prepare our kids for the future, but don't allow using such tools in a game? I think we should be encouraging such use.

I disagree. Not all schools have the same resources to compete in that way. I do not think we want games to turn into who has more technology. And that is what would happen if you allowed IPads and other devices to be use. This also would not make the game better. If you want to coach, observe what is going on during the game on the floor, not with some video device the other team does not have or cannot use.

Peace

[Judtech]

I think the unintended consequence would be the video capabilities of tablet computers. On the 'good' side it could be used just like a camera to record the game. Which would make it prudent to ask the tablet user do somewhere other then the bench.
The 'bad'. After a bang bang call, the coach calls a TO (or not) and proceeds to show you the replay from their angle! Now that would be fun!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I think the unintended consequence would be the video capabilities of tablet computers. On the 'good' side it could be used just like a camera to record the game. Which would make it prudent to ask the tablet user do somewhere other then the bench.
The 'bad'. After a bang bang call, the coach calls a TO (or not) and proceeds to show you the replay from their angle! Now that would be fun!

Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I disagree. Not all schools have the same resources to compete in that way.

You could say that about any resources.

Some schools have funds for nicer weight rooms, better equipment, better staffing (a big plus, ultimately), etc. All of these things can benefit a team. Technological items are merely among the tools one could use to improve one's work. And, by the way, these items are getting more and more affordable every year.

Whether a coach chooses to use a clipboard, pen and scratchpad, or iPad, they're all tools to meet a desired end. They'll never take the place of coaching, but, if used properly, they can indeed help improve performance. If they didn't, football coaches wouldn't have been trading game films, as they have for decades.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.

There it is. A disrespectful act is just that, regardless of the tools in use.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.

Plenty of Tea recipes can be stored on an iPad.