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Old Tue Oct 25, 2011, 06:48pm
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The toss of the year was too high of a toss.
Says who? The tosser is required to throw the ball at a height greater than either can jump, at a right angle between two of them, to insure the ball lands between them.

Now realistically, we don't toss the ball that high because the higher you toss it, the harder it is to insure it's a good toss. But there was nothing wrong with that toss.
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2011, 07:24pm
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Says who? The tosser is required to throw the ball at a height greater than either can jump, at a right angle between two of them, to insure the ball lands between them.

Now realistically, we don't toss the ball that high because the higher you toss it, the harder it is to insure it's a good toss. But there was nothing wrong with that toss.
IOW, the toss was a bit higher than it should of been.

Looking at the time between the ball leaving the official's hand and the jumpers hitting the ball, the ball went up approximately 20-30 feet above the release point. Generally isn't the maximum distance only about 10 feet above the release point?
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2011, 07:37pm
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IOW, the toss was a bit higher than it should of been.

Looking at the time between the ball leaving the official's hand and the jumpers hitting the ball, the ball went up approximately 20-30 feet above the release point. Generally isn't the maximum distance only about 10 feet above the release point?
IOW, no...the ball was tossed at a height higher than either could jump, it went at a right angle between the two jumpers, and it was tossed so it would land between the two of them. You can't really toss the ball too high, but no one tosses it that high because the higher you toss it, the harder it is to control the toss.
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Old Wed Oct 26, 2011, 02:02am
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Says who? The tosser is required to throw the ball at a height greater than either can jump, at a right angle between two of them, to insure the ball lands between them.

Now realistically, we don't toss the ball that high because the higher you toss it, the harder it is to insure it's a good toss. But there was nothing wrong with that toss.
NFHS Officials Manual 2.2 Putting the ball in play
2.2 B 4. "Toss the ball slightly higher than either person can jump. NOTE: If the toss is poor, either official should immediately sound the whistle; signal the clock should not start and order a rejump."

(It would seem that a poor toss would include tossing it excessively high.)
Admittedly, my first toss last year, in a regular season game, went about 18 feet high, and my partner started laughing, which precluded his being able to whistle to stop the play, and we managed to continue, even though both jumpers were up and down and then up again before the ball came down to the floor.
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Old Wed Oct 26, 2011, 02:10am
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Yes, that's the suggested mechanic because it makes our job of tossing the ball legally immensely easier...and that's the point of our mechanics. It'd be stupid if one practiced tossing the ball 20 feet in the air as you're more likely to start tossing it off line.

Still, the rule book tell us that we shall toss the ball higher than the jumpers can jump to get it.
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