Reset game clock?

[rbruno]

Just saw this happen in an AAU game last weekend.
Game clock is running down and the lead official whistles a foul just before the game clock horn signals for the end of regulation time.
The clock was a portable clock between the benches. The trail confers with his partner and has the table put one second back on the clock. This was a common foul and the offended team was behind by 2 points. The game ended with the subsequent throw in.
Is this correct? I know he didn't have definate knowledge of how much time to put back on....the clock did not register tenths of a second.
Should time have been put back on the clock? It doesn't seem right to just let the game end with the foul and no throw in when the whistle clearly preceded the horn and the possesion could determine the outcome of the game.

[tref]

Originally Posted by rbruno

Just saw this happen in an AAU game last weekend.
Game clock is running down and the lead official whistles a foul just before the game clock horn signals for the end of regulation time.
The clock was a portable clock between the benches. The trail confers with his partner and has the table put one second back on the clock. This was a common foul and the offended team was behind by 2 points. The game ended with the subsequent throw in.
Is this correct? I know he didn't have definate knowledge of how much time to put back on....the clock did not register tenths of a second.
Should time have been put back on the clock? It doesn't seem right to just let the game end with the foul and no throw in when the whistle clearly preceded the horn and the possesion could determine the outcome of the game.

How do you know he didnt have definite knowledge?

So what if the clock didnt register tenths... he didnt put any tenths on there, just a second.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by tref

How do you know he didnt have definite knowledge?

So what if the clock didnt register tenths... he didnt put any tenths on there, just a second.

He put up 10 tenths.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rbruno

I know he didn't have definate knowledge of how much time to put back on....the clock did not register tenths of a second.

Unless you were one of the officials discussing it, or they talked to you about it and told you as much, you do not know whether he had definite knowledge. Judging by the part in blue above, I'm guessing you didn't talk to them but you're making an assessment based on irrelevant information.

Let me ask you, what are the options available to provide definite knowledge?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tref

How do you know he didnt have definite knowledge?

So what if the clock didnt register tenths... he didnt put any tenths on there, just a second.

There is a difference between precision and definite knowledge.

You can definitely know the time to whatever resolution is displayed on the clock...if you see it display 0:01, it was 0:01....or to whatever level you are comfortable with counting manually between the whistle and the horn.

If the tenths were necessarily relevant, what about hundredths or thousandths? The clock is internally counting to that precision even if it never displays it. Since you can't tell to the 1/1000th of a second, should we never put time back to the 1/10ths?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rbruno

Just saw this happen in an AAU game last weekend.
Game clock is running down and the lead official whistles a foul just before the game clock horn signals for the end of regulation time.
The clock was a portable clock between the benches. The trail confers with his partner and has the table put one second back on the clock. This was a common foul and the offended team was behind by 2 points. The game ended with the subsequent throw in.
Is this correct? I know he didn't have definate knowledge of how much time to put back on....the clock did not register tenths of a second.
Should time have been put back on the clock? It doesn't seem right to just let the game end with the foul and no throw in when the whistle clearly preceded the horn and the possesion could determine the outcome of the game.

The clock didn't have tenths and the horn sounded just after the foul.

You can't reset it to less than 1 second and 2 seconds is obviously too much.

1 second seems like definite knowledge to me.