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Old Sun Oct 09, 2011, 09:52am
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Semantics and real world applications

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16. The official's whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).

Yes, we pass on some actions in some situations that, in other situations, we may find sufficient to warrant a whistle. In the play discussed in this thread, it's the communication, between partners, after the whistle(s), that is of greatest interest, especially to get a new season started.
The two actions, A34 from behind, B34 from the front, may occur so close to each other, that the only way to sort it out is that communication, and trusting one's partner and his/her judgement, to allow that communcation to be complete. I don't see a deficiency in the judgement of either official in this case.
Perhaps, the confidence between the two was such that the communcation was incomplete. But the OP and the responses are very helpful, and in fact I used what I have gathered in this thread, in two cases, yesterday, with partners in some BV fall tournament games. And because I made sure that our communication was complete, we got the plays and calls right, when both could have been problematic, especially with the two coaches involved.
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Old Sun Oct 09, 2011, 11:43am
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Perhaps, the confidence between the two was such that the communcation was incomplete. But the OP and the responses are very helpful, and in fact I used what I have gathered in this thread, in two cases, yesterday, with partners in some BV fall tournament games. And because I made sure that our communication was complete, we got the plays and calls right, when both could have been problematic, especially with the two coaches involved.
That's what it all boils down to, communcation. I'm glad you could avoid similar post-whistle mistakes in your game by learning from our mistakes!!

I appreciate all the feedback & critiques! Only makes me a better official.
FTR, I wasn't trying to cover anything. Simply assumed on trips in the paint that we all had the same thing & that my friends was a bigger mistake than the L calling the "push" foul that never occurred. Wish I had it on film...
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Old Sun Oct 09, 2011, 11:47am
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Are you confident the calling official knows it's not a foul to reach over the back of an opponent? If not, film would be pointless.
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Are you confident the calling official knows it's not a foul to reach over the back of an opponent? If not, film would be pointless.
Yes.

I dont want the film to prove it wasnt a foul... just would like to see the play again.
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Old Mon Oct 10, 2011, 09:32am
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Yes.

I dont want the film to prove it wasnt a foul... just would like to see the play again.
Understood.
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