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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 07:54pm
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9:00 left in 2nd half: Miles inbounding for KU moves his feet, but clearly remains on the throw-in spot. Packer, "There was a walk violation against Miles, not called."
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 08:03pm
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They just said that Mich St in 1979 was the last team to score 100 pts in a Final Four. Didn't UNLV beat Duke 103-73 in the 1990 title game? Where do these guys get their information?
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 08:13pm
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Question This might be semantics.....

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They just said that Mich St in 1979 was the last team to score 100 pts in a Final Four. Didn't UNLV beat Duke 103-73 in the 1990 title game? Where do these guys get their information?
but don't they consider the Final Four just the two semifinals games and the National Championship is considered a different category? I have heard statistics given like that before. It does not make complete since, but that has been used like that before.

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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 08:21pm
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Rut,
I thought about that, but then realized this would be giving these idiots too much credit. I think it is doubtful that they were following your line of thinking.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 11:32am
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It's a good thing the tournament ends tonight....

This post could get really loooooong.....
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 02:15pm
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Does anyone have an email address for cbs sports? I want to beseige them with messages criticizing Packer and Raftery. They make it unpleasant for me to listen to a game. I will also add that they need to give their announcers rules training.
I think I will set up my machine so it will send a message every hour on the hour for a week.

I agree with you halfway. It is painful to listen to Nantz and Packer. However, I do not see how you feel that way about Raftery... maybe it's me and my Jersey/New York/Big East bias... but I don't think so...
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 04:42pm
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Near the 16:00 mark of the 1st half in KU/Marquette Wade grabs the rim as a teammate taps the ball towards the basket. Wade releases the rim and then the ball goes in. Packer says the officials could have called that. Could he please read the BI rule? Oh, maybe he wanted them to call a T!
May I also add Jim Nance for his constant call of over-the-back.
On this one, I can't say that he was wrong. It really wasn't clear, even in slow motion replay, that he let go of the rim before the ball touched the rim. Packer, who is so often wrong, may have been right here...at least really close.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 04:45pm
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What??? Raftery rules!!! While every announcer may miss a ruling every now and then, at least Raftery has kept up with the rules for the most part since he stopped coaching, unlike Packer.

And what's not to like about somebody taking it "to the tin" to "SEND IT IN BIG FELLA!!!" With the kiss!!!

And I'm sorry, but "...and Verne Lundquist, team X starts out....MAN2MAN!!!" is worth watching the whole game. It's even better when Syracuse has to start the game on defense, because then "Jim Boeheim's Orangemen start out...*pause*...
in a 2-3 zone...*pause*...with MAN2MAN principles!!!"

While Packer's just a tool on a soapbox, Raftery IMHO supplies honest, fun, and real color commentary to each game.

So in closing, lay off my boy Bill Raftery with the nickel-dimers!!!!!


EXACTLY. I couldn't have said it better. Which is why I am continuing my three year boycott of CBS TV and turning on the radio to listen to Coach Thompson and the Governor... ONIONS!!!
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 04:47pm
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At least Papa Walton wasn't doing any Arizona games this year.

Actually, I was hoping that ABC/ESPN would have let Walton do some games... you can hear him now... "throw it down son, ONE TIME... C'mon!!!" lol... "why doesn't Lute take a timeout here... doesn't Arizona want to win this gammmmmmmmme?"

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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 05:30pm
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Another stupid remark by packer related to the flickering of the replay big screen bothering the FT shooter. Only way it would do that is if the FT shooter was shooting by looking at a TV that was showing an image of the screen. The only time you get that flickering is (basically) when you are looking at a TV picture of a TV picture...not viewing it directly. Packer obviously was commenting on it from what it appeared like on his monitor without really seeing it.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 07:00pm
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On this one, I can't say that he was wrong. It really wasn't clear, even in slow motion replay, that he let go of the rim before the ball touched the rim. Packer, who is so often wrong, may have been right here...at least really close.
From my view - the rim was released before the ball was in the basket.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Packer pointed this out while the ball was still in the cylinder.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 09:04pm
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By Billy Packer in the Champiosnhip game

"Playing with the rim while the ball is in the cylinder."
What an idiot! A 'Cuse player rebounded the ball and laid it in, but Duany tapped the ball after it was released by his teammate but while it was in the cylinder. Obvious offensive BI.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 09:10pm
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Great call on the charge on Miles! Packer has no clue what a guarded position is.

Good call on the intentional foul as well. THings are getting a little rough and Anthony is getting a little mouthy.
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2003, 09:15pm
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Great call on the charge on Miles! Packer has no clue what a guarded position is.

Good call on the intentional foul as well. THings are getting a little rough and Anthony is getting a little mouthy.
I concur. I just did not think at first that is what was being called. Great call!!!

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Pretty much a bang-bang play....looks like the defender got there JUST in time. Another millisecond and it's block all the way, I think.

Still a bonehead comment by Packer, especially with instant replay slo-mo.

And as I said in the other post, GREAT CENTER CALL.

Great call on the intentional. No hesitation whatsoever.

I hope Kansas comes back, we need a barnburner finish.
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