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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 10:19am
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As a side note, John Starks is the coach of the league's new team in Westchester, NY.
I would like to see his play book:

Play 1: Guard takes the ball down to the right side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 2: Guard takes the ball down to the left side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 3: Pass the ball to the Guard on the right side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Play 4: Pass the ball to the Guard on the left side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 1: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the right side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 2: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the left side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post


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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 11:02am
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Snif, snif. . . Do I smell some sour grapes?
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 11:25am
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Snif, snif. . . Do I smell some sour grapes?
No, why?
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 12:05pm
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You refs are actually lucky. For the most part, you only hear the carping during games. We get to listen to unsolicited advice before and after games (especially after games!), at practice, while we're sitting in the stands watching other games, late night phone calls, and if we're good enough to make the big time, from media "experts". And, then there are the parents!

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Actually, refs DO get unsolicited advice before and after games, in the stands, and the occasional late night phone call. Although you're right about not during practice -- unless you count camp.

But I just thought that coaches might have more clout in influencing the kinds of idiocy Packer commits on the air. Perhaps I'm wrong about that.

Also, I see that coaches are in some ways in a tougher spot from refs. We do have some camaraderie and support for each other, where coaches really are somewhat more isolated socially from each other. And I suppose you are more exposed to the carping of the parents than we are. Good heavens, am I gonna end up feeling SORRY for a coach? MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!!!
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Old Tue Apr 01, 2003, 04:46pm
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Sorry I don't know who said it, but here is what the guy said after the foul call; " the foul must have happened before the whistle".
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 03:07pm
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When Billy Packer is doing basketball, go up to the TV turn down the volume and find a good radio station.

This guy turns my stomach. Why does CBS put up with a A-hole like him?
What I don't understand is why the coaches put up with him. He says at least as many stupid coaching things, as reffing things. If the public listens to him coach the way they listen to him ref, it's gotta hurt a little. Hey, Hawks Coach, or PA coach, or theboys, what do you think?
I agree. It puzzles me how anybody could coach at the college level and seem to have so little clue about rules, and also seem to say the most ridiculous things about game strategy. It seems to me tha the is so separated from his former role that he thrives on criticizing, without engaging his brain (assuming there is something there to engage).
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 03:08pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias

As a side note, John Starks is the coach of the league's new team in Westchester, NY.
I would like to see his play book:

Play 1: Guard takes the ball down to the right side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 2: Guard takes the ball down to the left side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 3: Pass the ball to the Guard on the right side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Play 4: Pass the ball to the Guard on the left side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 1: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the right side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 2: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the left side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post


blah, blah, blah
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You left out the part about missing wide open 12 foot jump shots.


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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 03:29pm
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We, refs and coaches at all levels, are not the audience Packer is speaking too. It is the great unwashed horde that has no more knowledge of the game than what they get from driveway ball that is his target. They all know that that reach was a foul, that they over-the-back was missed, and that why in the heck is 3 seconds not being call. Packer just feeds them what they want to hear.
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Originally posted by ChuckElias

As a side note, John Starks is the coach of the league's new team in Westchester, NY.
I would like to see his play book:

Play 1: Guard takes the ball down to the right side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 2: Guard takes the ball down to the left side elbow and backs his way in to the low post

Play 3: Pass the ball to the Guard on the right side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Play 4: Pass the ball to the Guard on the left side elbow, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 1: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the right side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post

Fast break variation 2: Guard runs ahead of the break & sets up at the left side elbow. Pass the ball to the Guard, he backs his way in to the low post


blah, blah, blah


You left out the part about missing wide open 12 foot jump shots.


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LOL! Another John Starks fan I see!
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Old Wed Apr 02, 2003, 07:18pm
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We, refs and coaches at all levels, are not the audience Packer is speaking too. It is the great unwashed horde that has no more knowledge of the game than what they get from driveway ball that is his target. They all know that that reach was a foul, that they over-the-back was missed, and that why in the heck is 3 seconds not being call. Packer just feeds them what they want to hear.
Of course, you are exactly right. It's the same network structure that runs such inane garbage as "Survivor" and "The Millioniare". Gag!
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 06:56pm
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Near the 16:00 mark of the 1st half in KU/Marquette Wade grabs the rim as a teammate taps the ball towards the basket. Wade releases the rim and then the ball goes in. Packer says the officials could have called that. Could he please read the BI rule? Oh, maybe he wanted them to call a T!
May I also add Jim Nance for his constant call of over-the-back.
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 07:02pm
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Not to mention this one:
KU player shooting free throw... Marq. player appears to enter lane too soon.. ball goes in..
Nance says, calling attention to the violation " I can't believe that the refs didn't say something about that".
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 07:28pm
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i liked this one best: Aaron Miles all alone with the first possession of the game, shoots the three, Packer says, "He really shouldn't try that.." SWISH!! I laughed out loud, Miles being a personal fave of mine.
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 07:28pm
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Wink looks like midnight has struck for Marquette

...37 point lead for Kansas and counting...now the only thing interesting is Nance and Packer idiocy...
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Old Sat Apr 05, 2003, 07:53pm
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Re: looks like midnight has struck for Marquette

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...37 point lead for Kansas and counting...now the only thing interesting is Nance and Packer idiocy...
Yeah, there was a "travel not called," according to Packard.

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