Sky vs. Mystics - Last Second Call Thoughts

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

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What is everyone's thoughts on the foul call with about 1 second left in the game. It is around the 1:32 mark on the highlight video linked above.

Horrible positioning by the Lead official. There was exactly zero Team A players in her primary. Having a feel for the game means understanding where the last-second attack will come from, and officiating that area rather that officiating the void that she was looking at. Had she started up the strong side sideline, she would have been in perfect situation to sell any call that needed to be made or not made.

[NCHSAA]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Horrible positioning by the Lead official. There was exactly zero Team A players in her primary. Having a feel for the game means understanding where the last-second attack will come from, and officiating that area rather that officiating the void that she was looking at. Had she started up the strong side sideline, she would have been in perfect situation to sell any call that needed to be made or not made.

I could see the call coming from the Lead, as she could see the initial contact if it was there. On this type of contact coming from behind, the Center IMO is not in position to make the call. At first I though the Trail should have made the call but now looking back that would be hard, unless he was right on it on the sideline.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

On this type of contact coming from behind, the Center IMO is not in position to make the call. At first I though the Trail should have made the call but now looking back that would be hard, unless he was right on it on the sideline.

Didn't this foul occur in the C's primary? And exactly how is the lead or trail supposed to see contact (if there really was any) from behind? No way! The C would have the best look through and should be in the best position to make the call.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Didn't this foul occur in the C's primary? And exactly how is the lead or trail supposed to see contact (if there really was any) from behind? No way! The C would have the best look through and should be in the best position to make the call.

I agree that this is the C's primary. I cannot tell from the clip if their was a foul or not. Maybe Ben can chime in if he finds out how the call was graded.

[NCHSAA]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Didn't this foul occur in the C's primary? And exactly how is the lead or trail supposed to see contact (if there really was any) from behind? No way! The C would have the best look through and should be in the best position to make the call.

The Lead could stay back and see the situation unfold from start to finish and have a deep look. Going by PCA's it wouldnt be the Lead's, but view wise it wasnt a bad look as one of the replays had a view from approximately the Leads position. The C from his angle was looking at the side of the player when the "contact" was coming from back to front. If he was deeper down toward the baseline I think the look would have been better as you could see the "swipe and contact" starting and finish. But I have confidence he had some sort of look if he made the call.

[btaylor64]

I'm actually astonished no one thinks this was a fou or maybe I shouldn't say foul, but at least that she got hit. She gets her left hand knocked away from the ball causing her to have to throw it one handed, but to say ZERO contact occurred on her arm is baffling.

[APG]

I usually don't put much stock into what announcers say, but during the telecast, the home team announcers thought it was a foul as they heard the slap from where they were seated. Take that for what it's worth.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I'm actually astonished no one thinks this was a fou or maybe I shouldn't say foul, but at least that she got hit. She gets her left hand knocked away from the ball causing her to have to throw it one handed, but to say ZERO contact occurred on her arm is baffling.

All I can say is it looked like that may have happened given the reaction of the shooter after the supposed contact. However, the moment of possible contact was obscured from the view of the camera by the other defender. The video was inconclusive to me.

The side view provided no better conclusion. It wasn't blocked but was so far away and it could have easily been a swipe and a miss.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

All I can say is it looked like that may have happened given the reaction of the shooter after the supposed contact. However, the moment of possible contact was obscured from the view of the camera by the other defender. The video was inconclusive to me.

The side view provided no better conclusion. It wasn't blocked but was so far away and it could have easily been a swipe and a miss.

Of course the reaction of the shooter is going to be weird. The shooter is trying to throw up a desperation shot with seconds left on the clock. And the reaction to me looked like it was because she had her shot clearly blocked not because of some other obvious contact. I need more than a reaction to call a foul, I need to see some obvious contact and from his angle I am not sure how he would see that. The arm that #22 could have hit was the none shooting arm and that contact would really have to be there for me to simply call a foul. I need a little more than what he saw. And the Lead would have been a better person based on the angle.

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